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dutchcedar
11th March 2005, 06:07
O.K., dat's it. This is awesome, Nexxo... B)
I'm gonna move my old dually into a single wide... :unsure:
Nexxo
27th March 2005, 17:43
OK, another small update.
I've thought long and hard about case lighting. I wanted a nice accent light to highlight the pretty engineering stuff, but without turning it into a '80s Disco (the mirror ball inside a PC case has been done anyway). Moreover, in keeping with the overall theme of the case I want to keep it looking fairly functional. And as much as I like purple and blue LEDS, none of those. I tried --it doesn't look right. And again, it's been done.
So I stuck with the white LEDs. It doesn't need many --just a well-aimed few in a nice tidy housing --enter LazerLEDs. :D White ones are an absolute nightmare to find but I managed to get what may be the last one in the UK...
So, once I amanged to get my hands on this essential, delicate, rare item --I modded it. ^_^ Why? To hide the wiring, of course!
Here it is, opened up for those who wonder what one looks like on the inside (the braid was added by me):
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/90728654.jpg
A bit of drillage with my laser-guided drill press. "Do you expect me to talk?" "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to die! Muhahahahahah!!!" --Er. Sorry. Lasers do that to me... :unsure:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/90728651.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/90728644.jpg
The wires looped through the hole.
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/90728636.jpg
Braiding back in place, the end result:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/90728634.jpg
...and mounted in place with some hex screws (M3, 16mm long, for those who need to know).
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/90728629.jpg
Looking tasty, even in daylight:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/90728627.jpg
Overall pimp shot, so you can see how it co-ordinates with the white Res LED.
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/90728621.jpg
Now on to the window. I have some interesting plans for that. Expect to see something that has never been done before... If it works out the way I planned it, it should be pretty spectacular. :h34r:
Starbuck3733T
27th March 2005, 18:28
@The Mod: looking good
@Nexxo: WOAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I need laser guided drill presssssss!
mopery
27th March 2005, 21:58
So tasteful. And clean.
ỒĊBłůē
27th March 2005, 22:08
Top stuff there Nexxo :blink: - Metaversa just keeps getting better and better
fillip
27th March 2005, 22:43
Nice work there mun!
Have you been in touch with that sign firm I mentioned about the laser work yet?
mnpctech
27th March 2005, 22:44
Nice update, this project always reminds me of a finely engineered german car. Very clean execution.
Knipex
27th March 2005, 22:57
Details. Its all in the detail.:wub:
Darv
27th March 2005, 23:13
Very tasty. Puts my white light theme to shame. I'm going to re-think the setup I have at the moment.
How are you lighting your Aquatube to get it so vibrant? B)
Nexxo
27th March 2005, 23:57
Have you been in touch with that sign firm I mentioned about the laser work yet?
I've been finalising the initial window design first... but I hope to talk to them this week!
Nice update, this project always reminds me of a finely engineered german car.
That's the effect I'm always aiming for. ^_^
How are you lighting your Aquatube to get it so vibrant?
Just a white LED, 11000 mcd, run on 5V with a 75 Ohm resistor (it gets 3.2V; 3.5V is its optimal forward voltage). Of course it helps that there is no dye in the coolant; PF-5080 is clear as water.
godfoot
28th March 2005, 00:26
Very nice Nexxo, like Bill said... very clean.
Nexxo - your case is teh sh1z! I love it! But I got one question, could you happen to tell me where you got those "elusive" drive bay adapeters? The ones that house your notbook drives and media dash-board? I'm thinking I could use one or two of those for my new rig as well, to clean it up and leave some room for impovement.
Thanks and keep on moddin'! :D
dutchcedar
14th May 2005, 02:28
Hey, that triple light thing is cool. Very cool. Its so hard not to overdo lighting, but I think you nailed it. B)
Nexxo
15th May 2005, 12:13
Nexxo - your case is teh sh1z! I love it! But I got one question, could you happen to tell me where you got those "elusive" drive bay adapeters? The ones that house your notbook drives and media dash-board? I'm thinking I could use one or two of those for my new rig as well, to clean it up and leave some room for impovement.
Those drive adapters come in two colours (beige or black) and three flavours:
- laptop drive + 3.5" bay + double USB port (FCD501);
- laptop drive + 3.5" bay (FCD502);
- laptop drive + laptop 3.5" (half-height) floppy bay + 2.5" HDD mount (FCD503).
They were originally 19" rackmount solutions, where compactness is a priority. As such if you look around you can even find them with a built-in powerswitch and LED.
You can find them by Googling those part numbers FCD501, FCD502 and FCD503, but in the US they are sold a.o. by Vox Technologies (http://www.voxtechnologies.com/) and in the UK only by Industrial Computer Products (http://www.icp-epia.co.uk/).
You can also get a conversion bezel for a single laptop drive :here: (http://www.meritline.com/conversion-board-bezel-kit-slim-drive.html) (although you have to ask why), and, more usefully, a 5.25 bezel for two laptop optical drives --but I can't find the link for that at the moment, annoyingly...
ỒĊBłůē
15th May 2005, 14:05
These (http://www.eltech.co.uk/custom_projects/drive_bay.php) guys look like they produce them as custom jobs.
Nexxo
15th May 2005, 17:35
Top link! In the US you can buy something similar for $40,--, but the drives are slightly spaced apart vertically. Apart from that, looks about the same.
Those drive adapters come in two colours (beige or black) and three flavours:
- laptop drive + 3.5" bay + double USB port (FCD501);
- laptop drive + 3.5" bay (FCD502);
- laptop drive + laptop 3.5" (half-height) floppy bay + 2.5" HDD mount (FCD503).
They were originally 19" rackmount solutions, where compactness is a priority. As such if you look around you can even find them with a built-in powerswitch and LED.
You can find them by Googling those part numbers FCD501, FCD502 and FCD503, but in the US they are sold a.o. by Vox Technologies (http://www.voxtechnologies.com/) and in the UK only by Industrial Computer Products (http://www.icp-epia.co.uk/).
You can also get a conversion bezel for a single laptop drive :here: (http://www.meritline.com/conversion-board-bezel-kit-slim-drive.html) (although you have to ask why), and, more usefully, a 5.25 bezel for two laptop optical drives --but I can't find the link for that at the moment, annoyingly...
THanks a ton! ^_^ But Iw as really wanting to know where you got the one with the 2 USB ports on the front... lemme know if you find the link. Thanks!
Nexxo
16th May 2005, 17:57
THanks a ton! ^_^ But Iw as really wanting to know where you got the one with the 2 USB ports on the front... lemme know if you find the link. Thanks!
That's the FCD501. See the links above!
That's the FCD501. See the links above!
oh, duh! I must have skimed over it ^_^ - Thanks again!
Nexxo
17th July 2005, 19:07
Small update:
During my holiday this week I have had some time to tinker again. You will remember that I put a 5" colour LCD screen in the bezel.
People frequently muse what software they can use to meaningfully display useful info in a pretty manner. I find that Samurize (http://www.samurize.com/) is just the ticket. Usefully it recognises secondary screens and allows you to display pretty much whatever you want, in whatever way you want.
Below is my current config:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/104828697.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/104828695.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/104828692.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/104823104.jpg
I will probably tinker a bit more. You can also display HHD activity/space, Winamp stuff (inc. Spectrum and CD covers), voltages, temps, whatever. It comes with Speedfan and MBM plugins. Samurize can perform mathematical operations on the data it displays; note how it registers the SF800 flowsensor (connected to a mobo fan header) via Speedfan, and handily converts its RPM values into l/min. flow. Which is nice. :D
(EDIT: took better pictures...)
Breach
17th July 2005, 19:33
That is pretty sexy Nexxo :) Makes me wish I had a 5in LCD to use samurize on. How far away is Metraversa from being finished?
Nexxo
17th July 2005, 19:38
About 85% there. Just needs side panelling doing, and EL badge logo.
Starbuck3733T
18th July 2005, 01:57
"You can do it!"
fivecheebs
18th July 2005, 09:08
That config looks brilliant. Well done. I love the way it handles the swissflow.
fillip
18th July 2005, 09:33
Very cool indeed. :thumb:
mnpctech
18th July 2005, 12:13
Very nice Nexxo :thumb:
Nexxo
26th July 2005, 20:35
More eyecandy...
Been experimenting with Samurize a bit more... here the results:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/105970452.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/105971674.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/105971679.jpg
furious trout
26th July 2005, 20:39
that's just too cool Nexxo :jaw:
scopEDog
26th July 2005, 21:12
Thats flippin awesome...love the interface
TheGreatSatan
26th July 2005, 21:46
More eyecandy...
Been experimenting with Samurize a bit more... here the results:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/105970452.jpg
Where's getting the temps from, it's own probe or the motherboard?
Nexxo
27th July 2005, 09:40
Motherboard. Samurize works per default with both Speedfan and MBM. Here is is working with Speedfan. The flow comes from a flow sensor that is hooked to a motherboard fan header. Samurize turns the "RPM" values into l/min.
mnpctech
27th July 2005, 12:52
Thats pretty sweet :thumb:
Starbuck3733T
27th July 2005, 13:22
You get a chance to play around with the present I sent you yet?
Nexxo
27th July 2005, 13:37
Not yet, too busy... :-( but that's a good point. Perhaps I should start thinking of adding a temp sensor to the res.
Meanwhile I still have an empty square left on the display. I'll have to think aboout what data I could display there... HHD activity, perhaps?
fillip
27th July 2005, 14:11
HDD yes, providing that you have IDE drives, SATA drives don't have an activity output as I understand it, but maybe that's changed.
Starbuck3733T
27th July 2005, 14:38
heck, HDD temps :)
if samurize could make a "bar" meter that conformed to the shape of the corners (with similar sized border between itself and the semicircles for the temp displays.) you could connect that to hdd activity.
*wonders where hdd activity is in WMI*
Nexxo
28th July 2005, 21:07
How do you mean? What corners?
HDD activity is in WPM meters, BTW...
Anyhoo, here's another tweak:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/106224609.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/106224622.jpg
fillip
28th July 2005, 21:21
I think Star means these corners:
http://themodsquad.co.uk/photos/nexxo.jpg
what's WPM?
Nexxo
28th July 2005, 21:51
Windows Performance Monitors
fillip
28th July 2005, 21:52
Windows Performance Monitors
And can Samurize read those values easily or does it require a little more work than that?
I found this on the Samurize site as well - HDD LED tutorial (http://www.samurize.com/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=6)
Could easily be adapted to look however you want since it gets the important data then the rest is just customising the style/look of it.
Nexxo
28th July 2005, 23:16
It's easy-peasy out-of-the-box.
fivecheebs
28th July 2005, 23:44
I find samurize a but clumsy, well the GUI. 'tis good though.
Defyant
29th July 2005, 00:24
thats amazing the amount of data that screen can display!! awsome stuff mate
dutchcedar
29th July 2005, 00:53
Amazing... and damned cool looking!!! :thumb:
Starbuck3733T
29th July 2005, 04:49
I think Star means these corners:
http://themodsquad.co.uk/photos/nexxo.jpg
what's WPM?
Yup.
Does samurize call it WPM? the interface to it is WMI... not to be confused with WMV or WMA though. :D
Leeum
29th July 2005, 09:49
Nice work Nexxo, I love the colour scheme of the config ^_^
Nexxo
29th July 2005, 15:07
Does samurize call it WPM? the interface to it is WMI... not to be confused with WMV or WMA though. :D
Sorry, getting confused. On Samurize you have PerfMon and WMI. PerfMon does disk access & read times, CPU speed and processes and stuff like that. WMI does more hardware stuff like CPU ident, clockspeed and some esoteric things that I do not understand...
Nexxo
29th July 2005, 18:29
More tweakage:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/106320348.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/106320355.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/106320342.jpg
Starbuck3733T
29th July 2005, 18:35
your HDDs need some silentstar love :D
*points at 10K RPM SCSIs sitting at 19C*
pwweeeeeeeeeaaaaaaasesss play with your dimm shaped unit! I'm dying to see what you do with it! :lol: :D
Nexxo
29th July 2005, 18:52
Yeah, I'm not sure what to make of those SMART measurements... when I reboot, they may report something like 34C again. Moreover the value never changes while running. That does not make sense. I think there is some issue with Speedfan and SMART.
Starbuck3733T
29th July 2005, 18:54
...Or your drivers lie or report the temperature of the controller chip on the drive It is is quite possible the controller chip is 43C. I don't think the ATA/SMART or any specification that I know states WHAT the smart sensor temperature reading should report. Some manufacturers might do drive casing temp, others may do chip temperature, others may do something completely different. Anyway, I've never seen it stated in the specs.
Nexxo
7th August 2005, 14:40
More tweakage:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/107392816.jpg
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/5462051/107392636.jpg
dutchcedar
7th August 2005, 16:10
That display (and the information on it) is simply awesome. :thumb:
Starbuck3733T
8th August 2005, 03:23
This is a silly question, but can you put your mouse on that screen? Do you ever acccidentally drag windows onto that screen? Cuz if samurize is smart enough to be able to use a monitor that doesn't have "extend my desktop onto this monitor", I'm darn impressed! :D Heck, I'm just impressed by your skills on tweaking the display - I'm SO looking forward to seeing the "dimm shaped unit" installed and you using data from it.
fillip
8th August 2005, 10:11
After playing with Samurize for about 30 mins yesterday I've come to the conclsuion you must have spent absolute ages on setting it up like that and getting it to look as good as that. I opened up the editor and tried playing around with the default .ini file by adding some graphics in there etc, and I just couldn't get the poisitioning of elements to be how I wanted. Found it very frustrating for a first try.
Nexxo
8th August 2005, 12:07
Really? I think it is remarkably easy. As I play with it I am getting more and more ideas on how to achieve certain effects...
It helps if, in the editor, you turn of "snap to grid" or if you set the grid spacing to something more useful (smaller). Also you can "take a snapshot" of your desktop which is then superimposed on the editor space so you get a better idea of how your config will look/fit on screen.
To align elements relative to each other, keep an eye on the X and Y coordinates displayed on the right (you can actually just punch them in directly rather than dragging objects --same with resizing). The rest is just experimenting and playing with fonts, colours and alpha-blending. Stick at it. It will come to you.
@ Starbuck3733T: I have it desktop extended; the editor appears to recognise that no problem. The config is "pinned to desktop" so it does not move. I never accidentally drag my mouse or window in there, but then again I have a 20" TFT so plenty of space. I know the Samurize screensaver function (yes, you can run any config as your screensaver) recognises two independent screens, so I imagine Samurize can use non-extended, secondary monitors. I'll try tonight and see.
A possible advantage of having your mouse reach the second screen however, is that you can set up your config so you can click on certain elements on it, to launch certain actions.
fillip
8th August 2005, 12:49
I lpayed with it more today, starting with a clean config and building up from a background image and it is getting easier to use. Before I don't think i'd allowed myself enough time to find all the available options and display modes which is why it seemed difficult. I also assumed that the downloadable skin packs were easily applied, but it seems they're nothing more than a set of image files that you load into your config as you see fit.
A possible advantage of having your mouse reach the second screen however, is that you can set up your config so you can click on certain elements on it, to launch certain actions.
That sentence above is just what I wanted to here http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/wink.gif
... don't s'pose you happen to know if it's configurable for a touch screen lcd do you? http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/naughty.gif
Thanks for the advice. http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/grin.gif
Nexxo
8th August 2005, 14:48
That sentence above is just what I wanted to here http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/wink.gif
... don't s'pose you happen to know if it's configurable for a touch screen lcd do you? http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/naughty.gif
Should be. Touch screens for the PC come with a USB driven touch screen interface, that basically "pretends" to be a mouse. A poke at the screen is, from the PC's point of view, no different than a cursor pointing and clicking on that area. So yes, it should work fine with Samurize (and don't think that I haven't thought of that! ;-) ).
fillip
8th August 2005, 14:51
So yes, it should work fine with Samurize (and don't think that I haven't thought of that! ;-) ).
No, but you haven't implemented it. http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/wink.gif
Hmmm, the price of touch screen lcd's maywell prevent me from doing this anyway, but if I could find a fairly cheap usb unit, I have yet another idea to try out. http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/grin.gif
ỒĊBłůē
8th August 2005, 14:55
Would that cause a problem by conflicting your regular mouse inputs? - is it possible to tie one separate mouse input exclusively to each of two separate screens?
Nexxo
8th August 2005, 19:46
You cannot tie a mouse to each screen separately. However a PC will work fine with two "mice" simultaneously.
ỒĊBłůē
9th August 2005, 06:54
Yeah, I know about the two (or more) mice bit. I've got two plugged in ATM (wireless intellimice are a bit heavy for gaming ^_^ )
Pug
9th August 2005, 12:35
makes you wonder how/whether a touchscreen would work properly under a twinhead environment then... :huh:
Nexxo
12th August 2005, 11:16
It would. From the PC's point of view it is no different than moving your cursor across to the other screen and clicking on something there. As long as your desktop extends to the second monitor you're OK. However as soon as you engage SLI, your second screen drops out, and with it the touch-screen interface.
I'm not sure wheteher you can run SLI alongside a third, PCI graphics card. Hmmm....
Anyway, as I play with Samurize more, I find more plug-ins to download. One is FindTheTopProcess.dll, which lists windows processes in pretty much any way you want (arranged by name, CPU load, memory load, excluding processes of your choice, displaying name, mem usage and cpu load by choice, the whole shebang or only the top X processes, or only a single process that comes X in the list). It updates every second.
As such I put it in as a bit of eyecandy (it looks sharper in real life):
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/2019740/108096345.jpg
I am also building a Sony PSP inspired interface with a plug-in that casts a shadow under text, so you can have white text on a light background.
Someone on Bit-Tech is doing a HAL9000 mod, and wants to customize the OS to look the part. I whipped up this config in a few minutes (a bit rough, jut to give an idea) just to show what he could do with Samurize. "Open the pod door, HAL..."
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/2019740/108096145.jpg
fillip
12th August 2005, 13:01
I've got much better with Samurize the last couple of days, but what I've noticed, and it's something everyone else wiull if they play around with the software a bit, is how creative you've been with your layouts of the info. on screen. It's that which I'm finding most impressive atm http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/thumb.gif
scopEDog
12th August 2005, 13:42
No kidding, thats some great stuff Nexxo. Question for ya, in just day to day stuff do you feel that samurize gets in the way? What i mean is that i've used other apps that go on a second screen and sometimes it would move to top or do something else that would force you to mess with it. For the most part does it stay quiet on the second screen?
Pug
12th August 2005, 16:48
It would. From the PC's point of view it is no different than moving your cursor across to the other screen and clicking on something there. As long as your desktop extends to the second monitor you're OK. However as soon as you engage SLI, your second screen drops out, and with it the touch-screen interface.
Cool, I wasn't sure I was clear - I imagined the touchscreen interface might work like a touchpad, in that if the touchscreen was the left-hand display, touching the right-hand edge would send the pointer to the right of the right-hand screen. :shrug:
Nice to know it doesn't tho', that'd be a real PITA. :thumb:
Defyant
13th August 2005, 12:31
that is sooo cool nex, youve managed to keep a quality of workmanship on this pc thats top notch right from the first post.
drools over how cool looking that screen is :)
Nexxo
16th August 2005, 20:47
No kidding, thats some great stuff Nexxo. Question for ya, in just day to day stuff do you feel that samurize gets in the way? What i mean is that i've used other apps that go on a second screen and sometimes it would move to top or do something else that would force you to mess with it. For the most part does it stay quiet on the second screen?
Oops, sorry for the delay in responding... been busy...
The config stays put on the second screen, because I told Samurize to "pin it to desktop". This means that it absolutely will not budge. Even when Windows doesn't recognise the seconds screen on startup (due to a dodgy cable), the second screen stays black and the desktop unextended, but that does not push the Samurize config on to the primary monitor. It simply remains invisible until I activate the second screen and extend the desktop to it. It never moves or gets in the way of anything.
@Pug: a touch screen would work like a touch pad, but only a touch pad for that actual screen. It would not move the cursor on(to) the primary monitor. It might "call the cursor over" from the primary monitor when you poke something on the second (touch) screen, but I'm not sure about that.
I'm still playing with the functionality of the screen:
http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL932/717679/2019740/108346434.jpg
Note the Current IP (here blanked to zeros for the purpose of the pic, but in real life it shows my external IP, which changes every log-on as I'm on cable) and the LAN Net tile. I figured HDD activity is not necessary because I have a LED for that... :-p
Since this picture was taken, I have also added a connection monitor onto the LAN Net tile (green text saying; "Connected" or red text saying "Not Connected" if the network fails, positioned below the Up and Down to match the Pagefile text). I am currently looking at a trick that allows the whole tile to change colour (to dark red, for instance) if any of the values on it goes critical. Once I put Wifi into Metaversa as standard, I will also add a signal strength meter to the LAN Net tile similar to the meter in the MEM Phys tile.
Samurize does not yet have an actual bandwidth monitor (just a hypothetical one, which shows what your network card is configured for but not that you are actually getting down the pipe) but they're working on that...
Starbuck3733T
16th August 2005, 20:51
It should be as easy as knowing what you Should get, then taking what you are getting down and figuring out a percentage... right?
Nexxo
16th August 2005, 20:53
Not quite. Although Samurize can monitor bytes sent/received/total per second, it does not actually give you an actual current bandwidth.
Starbuck3733T
16th August 2005, 21:00
Seems like that math plugin should be able to add and figure it out. More than meets the eye, as usual, I'm sure.
Nexxo
17th August 2005, 08:54
Wouldn't work. I don't think Metermath can work re-iteratively, so getting an average of total bytes per second would be pretty hard. Moreover, that will only give you the bandwidth used, not the bandwidth available, and you want the latter.
The problem is particularly when you work from behind a router. Perfmon's CurrentBandwidth looks at the bandwidth of your network card (in talking to the router). This is completely unrelated to the bandwidth coming down the internet...
There's got to be a way, but I suspect it is fairly complicated as it requires some pinging of sorts. Can be done though-- that's how one Samurize plug-in obtains your external IP.
Starbuck3733T
17th August 2005, 13:31
traceroute probably, and ditches the results of the 1st hop.
hrm... Since the bandwidth going to your route is continously variable as to what you'll actually get, you'd need to run a routine speed test to your ISP find out what the max bandwidth is. I say to the ISP since thats the longest round trip you can really make w\o being effected by someone else's bottlenecks.
It does make me wonder if there are any SNMP counters that could be useful in the cable/dsl modems, though.
Pug
17th August 2005, 13:45
I figured HDD activity is not necessary because I have a LED for that... :-p
Heh, I'm alternating a screen full of histograms for CPU/HDD/MEM/SWP with a Time/Date/Uptime screen, using CrystalControl2 (I haven't updated my thread on it yet because I haven't figured out how to customise it as easily as the previous incarnation - which I had WinAmp screens configured to kick in if it was active).
I still prefer your screen tho'. :-p
BigBen2k
17th August 2005, 18:29
traceroute probably, and ditches the results of the 1st hop.
hrm... Since the bandwidth going to your route is continously variable as to what you'll actually get, you'd need to run a routine speed test to your ISP find out what the max bandwidth is. I say to the ISP since thats the longest round trip you can really make w\o being effected by someone else's bottlenecks.
It does make me wonder if there are any SNMP counters that could be useful in the cable/dsl modems, though.
Here's how we run a tracert here at Yahoo!:
1) download WinMTR - the Windows binary can be found here: http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/winmtr_bin.zip
2) run winmtr to <enter your destination here> for at least 50 or so packets (the more packets run through, the better the sample would be in evaluating possible problems with the network along the way) The number of packets is the "Sent" column in the output window.
3) cut&paste the results.
Knipex
17th August 2005, 19:25
Love the screen, seriously impressed and wondering how I missed this thread for so long.
Nexxo
17th August 2005, 19:43
Here's how we run a tracert here at Yahoo!:
1) download WinMTR - the Windows binary can be found here: http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/winmtr_bin.zip
2) run winmtr to <enter your destination here> for at least 50 or so packets (the more packets run through, the better the sample would be in evaluating possible problems with the network along the way) The number of packets is the "Sent" column in the output window.
3) cut&paste the results.
Both you and Starbuck3733t have the right idea. Really we'd need a Samurize plug-in that every so often (e.g. at startup and then every half hour or so) does a brief tracert and evaluates the results. But my coding skills are pretty non-existent...
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