Help me set up my water kit in a Lian V2000+

[Cheekykid]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/cheekykid/set.jpg

I got the swiftech kit and am thinking of placing the rad on the left side by removing the racks along side with the PSU. My question is where should I put the pump and res with the rad installed there?
and what is that brown paper for?

[Greeny]

The brown paper is impregnated with corrosion inhibitors, it has this written on it.

[Crunch]

Are the pump and Res seperate? Im guessing no...

Is there enough room for the pump to go either infront of the Rad or behind if you remove the racks completely?
You could have your HDD(s) in one of your 5.25 drives?

[Cheekykid]

Are the pump and Res seperate? Im guessing no...

Is there enough room for the pump to go either infront of the Rad or behind if you remove the racks completely?
You could have your HDD(s) in one of your 5.25 drives?

Pump and res are seperate how can they not be?:confused:

There is room for the pump to be right next to the rad but that would require for the PSU to be moved upwards. I have 3hdd(s) and they cant all of them fit in the 5.25 as there are others things there.

The brown paper is impregnated with corrosion inhibitors, it has this written on it.

With what do i use it?

[Crunch]

I guess you throw it away...Its for storage purposes.

You can get certain Res's that are attatched to the pump.

How about placing you Rad on the top?

You don't have to have your pump and Res in the same place, your Res could go higher? Infront of the Mobo?

Just throwing some ideas out there.....

[Cheekykid]

How does this setup looks like? I think am going to do the same

http://img128.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tmp6914ry6.jpg

Also what are the downsides when using a bay reservoir?

[Crunch]

That case has the PSU above the 2 stamped out fan holes, yours has it below, im not sure your PSU will fit above where it is supposed to be, mounting wise....I suppose its not impossible, though, with some modding?

Im sure somebody around here will know more.:thumb:

[Cheekykid]

That case has the PSU above the 2 stamped out fan holes, yours has it below, im not sure your PSU will fit above where it is supposed to be, mounting wise....I suppose its not impossible, though, with some modding?

Im sure somebody around here will know more.:thumb:

I have found a way to mount the PSU. All i need to know now is if there is any downside in having a bay reservoir and does it matter if the pump is right next to the rad perfomance wise?

[Crunch]

The only downside I can think of with using a bay Res is the fact you lose a bay.

Im not great on water cooling, just a noob myself, so maybe some else can answer your question about the RAD/Pump question.

Edit: AFKMATRIX has a similar case, with the Rad mounted sideways...http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=5575

[Cheekykid]

How about placing the pump there

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/cheekykid/pumpplacement.jpg
(this isn't my setup)

There is certainly enough space for the pump there and it won't fall since i rarely move my case.
I urgently need to get my machine up and running as I have to do some important stuff on it.

[fivecheebs]

I wouldnt put the rad onthe bottom, unless you are planning some tall legs. You need plenty of air either side of the rad for best performance.

Which pump did you get? I'd prefer to mount the res on its side (as in your pic) somewhere if it fits, maybe where it is infact, then the pump can fit by the rad if it isnt too bulky, or by the PSU, or where you put your cross.

Its very hard to advise without knowing which pump you are using. Most importantly, dont rush into it. Take your time to plan the loop for the shortest / neatest route. As long as the res is in front of the pump the order for the rest of the components is not important.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

I know from my own experience that all the planning in the world can only get you so far if you dont have the parts in front of you. Once you get everything together and you see how long the fittings are and how small a radius you can bend the tubing and other variables the plan normally has to be adapted.

[Cheekykid]

After much thought for the best, easiest and without drilling involved solution here's my plan
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/cheekykid/IMG_1420.jpg

The case side door closes with no problems.

Does it matter that the pump isn't 100% upright? I think not but can someone confirm it? I can have the pump either a little bit forward or backwards and simply drilling the bracket so that the tube can pass.
You can always move the pump a little bit backwards (though I won't need it) to allow more space for cables/tubes and all you have to do is use the next hole but in that case you need to drill just a little bit to get the hole wider because it's smaller than the first one which I currently have the pump mounted. All I need now is some anti-vibration pads to reduce any noise and one more hole so that the pump can be secured. Otherwise I could simply place the pump next to the motherboard but am not sure how wise that would be. Does the pump need to be screwed down? I never move my case.
Am really between: on top of the divider or where I have it now?

In addition the pump is high enough for the rad to be fitted and away enough from the PSU.

What do you think?

[Cheekykid]

Or i could do this:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/cheekykid/IMG_1421.jpg

[AFK_Matrix]

Hi Cheeky,

I think your second idea is a better one as the pump looks like its gonna fall off in the first pick :eek:. If your gonna connect the pump to the rad like I have done you want to check wether your tubing will bend that much. Have your reservoir as high up in the case as you can get it as its then easier to bleed it, with my aquatube at the top of my case its a breeze to bleed and fill the system. Also I assume your gonna remove the PSU plate right?

For the information of others Cheeky has bought the following kit:

Swiftech H20-220 Apex Ultra Watercooling Kit

- Apogee waterblock
- MCR220 Radiator
- MCP655 12V DC Pump
- MCRES-MICRO reservoir
- MCB120 Radbox radiator mounting adapter
- 7/16" ID Tubing
- Adjustable pump speed

[Pug]

I'd personally put it on top of the divider but as Babs mentioned, it's hard to advise without the parts to hand.
The pic you showed on the previous page looks to be an okay layout but he'd have been better off feeding the pump from the res, rather than the rad (as per the MCP655 Installation Guide (http://www.swiftnets.com/products/installationguide_MCP655.pdf))
Note: It is preferable to directly connect the RESERVOIR DISCHARGE to the PUMP INLET (no other components between pump and reservoir)

Don't angle the pump like that. Try to use the bracket as intended by utilising all of the proper mounting points. The least of your worries will be vibration and you're looking at airtrap problems compounded by bearing issues in the long run. :nono:

[Cheekykid]

Well finally I went with the idea of placing the rad outside because I couldnt have my PSU facing the divider with no space in between.
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/cheekykid/IMG_1424.jpg

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/cheekykid/IMG_1423.jpg

I opened a hole and the tube fortunately goes through without kinking. I realize that i lose 1 pci slot but it doesnt bother. I can always reroute the tube if i want by getting through from downstairs.
I'll keep my pump downstairs and place the bay reservoir as high as possible. Since its a bay one and assumingly bigger than the one that comes with the kit do i still fill it up?

[Pug]

^^ I can see several problems with that location...
Apart from the hose routing, how are you going to connect your monitor to your graphics card?
Besides that, your rad will scavenge warm air from your PSU exhaust, cooling performance will be compromised.

You've got a big case there, there must be better options....

[Cheekykid]

^^ I can see several problems with that location...
Apart from the hose routing, how are you going to connect your monitor to your graphics card?
Besides that, your rad will scavenge warm air from your PSU exhaust, cooling performance will be compromised.


The card has 2 dvi outputs so I assumed that I can connect it to the one on the right can't I? I thought that I can, hence i drilled that hole:duh:

As for the hose routing I have aranged everything without kinkings.

The PSU has the fan on top and its quite far from the rad so I dont think that will be a problem.


You've got a big case there, there must be better options....

There were better options but I was unable or unwilling to mount the rad on the top of the case or put it at the bottom.

[Pug]

The card has 2 dvi outputs so I assumed that I can connect it to the one on the right can't I? I thought that I can, hence i drilled that hole:duh:

As for the hose routing I have aranged everything without kinkings.

The PSU has the fan on top and its quite far from the rad so I dont think that will be a problem.



There were better options but I was unable or unwilling to mount the rad on the top of the case or put it at the bottom.

Ah, no worries then. I hadn't thought of the second DVI.
As I said, iwe're at a disadvantage to advise without the case to hand.

For the PSU though, even with the fan on top, doesn't it still exhaust through the back? Perhaps a baffle divider could be easily fabricated though, to prevent any of the warm air being sucked directly into the rad.
Just a thought. :-)

[Cheekykid]

For the PSU though, even with the fan on top, doesn't it still exhaust through the back? Perhaps a baffle divider could be easily fabricated though, to prevent any of the warm air being sucked directly into the rad.
Just a thought. :-)

It does exhaust air through the back but I can hardly call the air 'hot' maybe because the PSU is hardly under 'stress'. Actually at times the air exhausted its a little bit cold. As you say a baffle divider could be easily made actually i could use this:http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y211/cheekykid/IMG_1427.jpg

As for the 2nd dvi, it doesn't matter which dvi I use if I have just one monitor right?

[AWACS]

yup... it doesn't matter... though then comes the questions of keyboard and mouse connections...

[Cheekykid]

yup... it doesn't matter... though then comes the questions of keyboard and mouse connections...

The rad only blocks one dvi port and thats it. All the rest are accesible as normal including the keyboard and mouse connections

[AWACS]

heh... sounds like my rad installation on my P-160... one dvi port covered the rest is accessable

[Pug]

Ah, my bad. Didn't see/think of the second port.
I do like to avoid hamstringing myself for the future though, so I'd have tried to avoid it personally (dualHead is awesome). :thumb:

[AWACS]

heh... well... if it was in my case more or less the only option without serious rebuilding of the case(my antec p-160 which might be swapped for a v1000 soonish)... I know off topic... but I think it went a lil off topic due to dvi ports

[Cheekykid]

I don't think(hopefully) that i'll be buying a second monitor in the future so I should be ok.