Laing DDC-Pump With 2 Rads plus Y Hose Splitters

[dieplz]

Hi
This is my first go at a watercooled rig
I just recieved my kit and relised that i need to order a couple of 1/4 - 10mm screw fittings for the Pump, i think i need some Y shaped hose splitters aswell. heres a quick diagram. Will this work ?

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Some Pictures of the stuff i already have.

[fivecheebs]

Welcome to Wizd... Please fix your country flag. It helps us to know where your from.

If the rads are identical, and the hose runs on each side of the split are similar in length then it should work OK. You will be reducing some of the pressure drop across the rads, but it wont make a huge difference to performance i wouldnt have thought. Why do you want to run the rads in paralell?

[dieplz]

Hi thanks, sorry, edited it now.

Not sure i just thought i might be a good idea, i have ordered the Y splitters and connectors for the pump now, should be here tommorow. but dont have to use them.

i will make sure they tubing is exactly the same length.
i am using a akasa eclipse 62 which i put a blow hole in,so will have one radiator up there and the other on the front intake.

running them in parralel is it a bad idea then ? and yeh they are exactly the same rads see them in these pictures

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Also has anyone else actually used these rads, i dont see what bolts i am supposed to be using with them. to attach the fans, as normal fans screws wont work.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

tbh i would run them in a series for an easy life. Water flows down the path of least resistance so it will be very difficult to get an even split of flow. Go ahead and try it though and let us know how you get on!

[BigPhillyEd]

tbh i would run them in a series for an easy life. Water flows down the path of least resistance so it will be very difficult to get an even split of flow. Go ahead and try it though and let us know how you get on!

Rude Baboon, has it right water is like electric it will always take the path of least resistance. That doesn't mean it will completely by pass the rad, but you may not get the cooling capacity you want.

A couple of questions, what CPU are you using? Are you water cooling your video card or the north bridge?

If your water cooling the video card, then install one rad before the CPU and one rad before the video card, inline. IF your not cooling the card, you may not even need the second rad. But if you insist on installing two rads then put them inline with each other, in series. But as I mentioned I dont really think your going to need both unless your running a CPU that is over 100W.

I have a single BIX-I doing great with an X2 3800+ chip which is a 100Watt chip. If your going to overclock, I wouldn't even bother with thos little rads, go with a dual or triple rad.

[fivecheebs]

running them in parralel is it a bad idea then ? and yeh they are exactly the same rads see them in these pictures

Not necessarily a bad thing, nor a good thing. There are pros and cons. It can be tricky to set up effectively, and for your first loop try not to overcomplicate things.

I'm still curious as to why you wanted to do this? Why did you think its better? Im not picking holes, just wondering how your mind is working. If i were to guess, its either about the pressure drop, or the "speed" of the water in the rads. Its a common misconception that if you can slow the water down in the rad it will remove more heat.
Also has anyone else actually used these rads, i dont see what bolts i am supposed to be using with them. to attach the fans, as normal fans screws wont work.
Nope, i've not used those. Can you post a picture of the included hardware and a close up of the holes?

[Pug]

Actually, this calls to mind a discussion I had with a plumber a while back who advocated use of the FIFO (first in first out) principle as applied to household radiator installation.
I meant to try it but never got around to it in a proper testing environment.

Essentially, it would involve swapping the red and blue lengths of hose on the second rad, so that you had a short run feeding one rad and a long run feeding the other; then the same lengths on the outlet but reversed, so that the long one came off the short-fed and vice versa.

All things being equal, it seemed sound in theory but I wondered what other factors might come to bear in a practical installation (height of rad location being the same, etc).
I really should try it but only have one flow meter atm, and I'd be loath to attempt it without being able to measure all variables.

[fivecheebs]

I really should try it but only have one flow meter atm, and I'd be loath to attempt it without being able to measure all variables.

You'd be more than welcome to borrow my swissflow if ever the urge arose, and time was available. :thumb: Id be interested to see the results.

[Pug]

You'd be more than welcome to borrow my swissflow if ever the urge arose, and time was available. :thumb: Id be interested to see the results.
Cool. Thanks Chris.
Did you ever get the parts to sort it working?
Squelch was on the case for me but I'm not sure if he still is...

[fivecheebs]

no probs.

err, kinda. :lol: I haven't had it running yet, and i havent bought any bits, but i dont think i need to. Remember that fill tank with the G3/8" port for my AP1500? I have got the supplies to make it (them), had them for ages! (apart from the tap), but not had the time to do anything with it. I was contemplating using another G3/8 port for the inlet, and the swissflow can screw directly into the res... and i already have the reducer that i will need to take off the pump. :shrug: .... maybe

sh*t, kinda got off topic a bit didnt we, sorry dieplz

[dieplz]

I simply thought, pump pushes it out into both rads comes out goes into CPU. I dont know anything about watercooling or plumbing, pressure drops or what ever.

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I have a tagan 530w easycon atm, its SLi certified do you think i should change? When i eventually put my evga 7950 gx2 super dooper clocked gfx card in. I have an old silverstone 650w which i took out cause it was too loud.

I am only going to cool my CPU.

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[dieplz]

right the damn things i ordered werent the right size. they were 'Alphacool Screw connector AG 1/4' on 10/8mm' but they are 2 small for the tubing. where can i get one for this 3/8" tubing i need a shop that does saturday delivery aswell. i've found some barbs on coolercases but they dont do saturday delivery :(. dont know why i ordered them.

[fivecheebs]

Why dont you just get 10/8 Tubing and use your Alphacool fittings. The koolance blocks etc arent really ment for 3/8 tubing. They normally use 6mm ID tubing iirc.

And i think you would be lucky to get anyone to deliver tomorrow really. If you need your PC that badly just chuck the air cooling back in. Watercooling should not be rushed.

[dieplz]

The CPU block is the 3/8" version and so are the radiators.

Why wont i be able to get saturday delivery ? i dont mind paying for it, most shops like tekheads.co.uk which is where i got all my other stuff from give you the choice of saturday delviery.

guess i'll just have to keep looking.
its just i left this weekend free to tinker with my PC.

ok over-clock.co.uk do a saturday delivery and the barbs which i think and hope will work. i also read a review of the PA 3X120 rad so i decided to buy one aswell to test out. i have 3 monster delta fans (the 200cfm ones) which i wanna see how much difference it makes. i will prolly get flamed for doing it but i dont care, fans are cool

[fivecheebs]

:lol: You wont get flamed here. WizD will only flame a bad attitude, and even then you have to really push the right buttons.

Just because the block is the 3/8" version doesn't mean that its different (other than the fittings). I really cant say for sure as Koolance isnt my thing really. I'd still prefer push fits (i assume the alphacool 10/8 fittings are push fits) to barbs though, but thats just a personal preference. Barbs are a pain in the rear.

Good luck with getting the delivery. If i were you i'd call them to place the order, then you know for a fact that a human is dealing with it. More chance of it happening.

[dieplz]

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soz about quailty lent my d70 yo a mate.

finally got the bits i needed for the pump/res yesterday, had it running over 24hrs now seems to be leak free and bubbleless.

i just need to find some damn bollts to fit these radiators to attach the fans. the PA3X120 rad is here aswell but i couldnt use it as the barbs i ordered were wrong again lol! god dammit this water cooling business is annoying lol. i swear it said 1/4 screw fittings lol.

[Fibbles]

Thermochill radiators don't use G1/4" threads, they use G3/8" threads. Alphacool sells them in both compressions and adaptor sizes, maybe even in barb form.


soz about quailty lent my d70 yo a mate.

finally got the bits i needed for the pump/res yesterday, had it running over 24hrs now seems to be leak free and bubbleless.

i just need to find some damn bollts to fit these radiators to attach the fans. the PA3X120 rad is here aswell but i couldnt use it as the barbs i ordered were wrong again lol! god dammit this water cooling business is annoying lol. i swear it said 1/4 screw fittings lol.