Chieftec Project: 100 YEARS OF HARLEY DAVIDSON (inspiring another modder)

[mnpctech]

Case Mods by Mnpctech.com (http://www.mnpctech.com)

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/picture_library/HD1.jpg

Progress shot from 11/21/04
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDBezel3.jpg

Custom Blowhole kit available here (http://www.mnpctech.com/mnpctechblowhole.html)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDBHFlames2.jpg

Added 1/30/05
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDwin5.jpg

Added 2/05/05
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDFC5.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDFC3.jpg

Added 3/7/05
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Waterjetpieces.jpg

Added 3/28/05
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9n.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9m.jpg

Illuminated
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics//LEDdiagramz2.jpg

[mnpctech]

Added 9/25/05 and shown here (http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538&page=45&pp=10)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDCPUgll9i.jpg

Added 12/26/05 and shown here (http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=538&page=56)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDwing9o.jpg


Images that inspired this build.

Da rig we all know and love, Pug's Hexadragon (http://www.mnpctech.com/Hexadragon.jpg)

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/OEMChieftc.jpg


http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD2toneb.jpg

Paint scheme from Ford's "Harley Davidson" edition F-Series Super Duty
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics//harley.jpg



Window panel
American Bald Eagle Waterjet cut

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Accesspanel.jpg


MB side mural

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics//MBpanel.jpg

[mnpctech]

Modifying front intake to HC Mesh grill

Rotary tool w/ 1.5" reinforced cutting disc (http://www.mnpctech.com/Discs.html)

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill1wb.jpg

rip it out!
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill2wb.jpg

Picking off excess melted plastic w/ rubber glove
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill3wb.jpg

Cleaning up edges of excess plastic
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill4wb.jpg


Using Mouse Sander w/ med grit paper to smooth over inner Bezel's corse surface. Will do outside areas later
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill5wb.jpg


http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill6wb.jpg


Intake grill made from Honeycomb Modder's Mesh (http://www.mnpctech.com/moddersmesh.html). (bent in table vise)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill7wb.jpg

Testing for fit and look.
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill12wb.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill8wb.jpg

[kazuo]

looking very good so far. can't wait to see the paint scheme on the case ^_^

[Starbuck3733T]

Ohh. Mesh on the innnnsiddddeee. :)

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

Nice works as always! :)


I dont like the colours though reminds me of a scotch egg, but then i dont like harleys either lol. If i was going for a bike it would have to be a sports bike all the way. ;)

[dutchcedar]

Another mnpctech thread to follow closely... <_<

I like the colors... B)

[Crimson-AC-]

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Accesspanel.jpg

[mnpctech]

If i was going for a bike it would have to be a sports bike all the way.Should have known me 16 years ago. I was the guy w/ his face buried in Cycle World magazine. Today, I'd rather cruise and enjoy the scenary w/o the lower back pain. This case is my dedication to an American Legacy.

back on topic, I have got a ton of photos to edit for the chassis mod. Bear with me over next few days.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

Everybodies tatses are different and they change over the years so i'm sure i'll learn to love the 2 wheeled arm chairs one day. :)

[Knipex]

4 wheels (or more) good....... 2 wheels bad........ Unless of course its a morgan 3 wheeler then I could be persuaded... but this is getting distacting...

Back on Point........

Hmmmmm Nice. Love the eagle.

[mnpctech]

Got sidetracked these last 48hrs. I thought I lost one of the side panels until I realized it was stashed on top of shelf to avoid scratches. ugh

Closeup of bezel painted Gloss Black enamel w/ clearcoat

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grill13.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/FF.grillAFT2.jpg

[Starbuck3733T]

Mnpctech - we do black right!

[mnpctech]

Couldn't resist skipping ahead of my progress after mounting Aluminum Evercool fans today. Chrome/Orange combo really looked tasty.

2, 92mm AOC Evercool exhaust fans
2, 120mm AOC Evercool intake fans

Keep in mind Chieftec Dragons normally hold 2, 80mm fans frnt/rear.

Stacked 92mm exhaust fans
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Evrcool1.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Evrcool2.jpg


Upper 120mm intake
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Evrcool3.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Evrcool5.jpg

Behind modified bezel
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Evrcool4.jpg

The last photo emphasis need for filtration. Custom filters are in the works and will be shown sometime after completion ;)

[ReXModS]

mnpctech , that thing looks awsome , the color combination , the chrome fans , but just one thing are those two 120 mm fans centerd in the middle of the front bezel?

[Starbuck3733T]

I agree about the non-centered fans. However, if they have filters or the mesh has filter media behind it, it wont matter. Looks great so far, and I love color combo too!

[mnpctech]

Look @ your Dragon's HD layout gentlemen :rolleyes:

Airstream is directed through HD cages.

[gumby]

it's just so... clean

[dutchcedar]

Very nice... that orange is simply the shiznits... B)

[biggiy6]

I am back from hiatus or whatever you wanna call it.

Anyways holy crap that is awesome. Would you mind if I ask a few questions? First how did you get the mesh to stay? My second and final question im trying to get rid of the plain boring front grill style so would you mind if I used that same sort of grill style on my bezel? I was thinking of doing the dual 120's like you have but I was gonna paint the mesh so it all flowed together.

How did you get that so glossy?

[Endo]

Very awsome hope to see more soon

[Tom]

AAAAH!

Too many shiny things to look at.:wacko:

[Starbuck3733T]

Welcome to the boards tom!

Why not come and introduce yourself at: http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=51

[mnpctech]

Progress has been stalled while I take on some mod jobs.

[gumby]

Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww^_^ ^_^ ^_^

[rob_65]

Cute!

She's in training as your assistant i take it? :P^_^

[dutchcedar]

Naked babe!!!

Hey, she's cute as all get out. B)

That top cover's cool too.

[Dante]

She's a cutie Bill. And the bezel ain't so bad either:)

[Starbuck3733T]

OMG *sheds tear* she's adorable!

[BuffaloBoy]

Wow, that is truly incredible work. You have amazing skills. Can't wait to see more pix

[mnpctech]

Thanks guys! ^_^

"Whats this dad?" .. "WHY you got this dad?" ..."Can I have this DAD?" ..."what are these for dad?" Honey, don't open that box of screws .....Oh No! :eek:

[Starbuck3733T]

Wow, that is truly incredible work. You have amazing skills. Can't wait to see more pix

Yeah and he makes nice cases too LOL

So i take it she's about 2 years old or just barely three?

[mnpctech]

Star, good guess, shes 2.5 :)

[Starbuck3733T]

Then that explains the why why why why why... Kyra is 4 and she's STILL in that mode.

When she asks something that I can give a good, educated, scientific explanation on - I do. sometimes it confuses her, but most of the time she just walks away giggling.

My point is that there's no scientific explanation for all those whys, especially those relating to modding :)

[Pug]

Bill, I've got yet another half-composed mail lying here that wonders if you'd like my silver bezel for this project?
You'll hafta paint it yourself to match the black, sorry but as I said to you before, I want to do one that doesn't have the "chin" at the bottom (and it wouldn't be much more work to do the whole thing again than it would to mod the one I have).

It is the same chassis, isn't it? :unsure:

The top door on mine is knackered from the ModFest incident (and I'm still waiting for that to be sorted) but I see you have the door sorted (if you can get it back... looks like she doesn't wanta give it up! :D).

Lmk anyway. :)
Teaser pic (http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/Pug/HDteaser.jpg)

[mnpctech]

Bill, I've got yet another half-composed mail lying here that wonders if you'd like my silver bezel for this project?
Thats a tempting offer. The Eagle looks purty good on der grill :cool:

[Yellowsnow17]

This is looking amazing so far. I love the orange on the interior, and the finish on the front bezel is spectacular! :eek:

[Pug]

Thats a tempting offer. The Eagle looks purty good on der grill :cool:
It fits just fine too - two of the mounting pegs line up exactly and the third is only a dremel notch away.
If I can get a replacement std one to mod, the bezel's yours bud. :cool:
As for the Eagle... I put it there to whet your interest in the bezel but I reckon I could part with it for a project like this if need be...
Hmm, speaking of which, do you have a handle sorted for this one yet? I still have that one with the micro-switched Harley brake lever...

and the finish on the front bezel is spectacular!
Yah, I kinda wish he hadn't painted it yet... (or that I'd offered my bezel sooner) :o

[Pug]

Everybodies tatses are different and they change over the years so i'm sure i'll learn to love the 2 wheeled arm chairs one day. :) Heh, it was all the unneccessary Harley accoutrements that gave rise to early modding/customising of 'em. I don't think any self-respecting poster here would admit to wanting to leave one as standard ('cept mebbe the XLCR, if it was me :unsure: )

[mnpctech]

Heres some steps I haven't had time to post.

You can't have a HD theme case w/o the V-Twin! I found this nifty tow hitch at a motorcycle swap meet..

I outlined where I wanted the motor to protrude from the door and used my Dremel for the cuts.

You can barely make out the engraved words "V-Twin" in the oval filter cover. I later filled that in with JB-Weld and sanded that w/ 400 grit. I wanna paint something cool there like a skull. flames or accenting orange/silver design.

[mnpctech]

Cut is finished.

How did I attach it?

Actually the cut was dead on so our motor fit nice and snug. Not good enuf! I don't want it to ever move. Grabbing my JB-Weld, I applied it on backside of bezel between the joint. 24hrs later it was rock solid.

I filled Chieftec's ugly oval groove in the door as well.

Then I painted the backside w/ Krylon Gloss Black to hide the greyish JB-Weld. It looks more like our mod was factory molded in.

[mnpctech]

I prepped the bezel surface for paint by sanding it w/ 500 grit, then applying Plastikote Flexible primer for plastic.

Where has that ugly groove gone?

[mnpctech]

I really want the paint to shine on this baby. I sanded the Primer w/ 800 grit paper so it was smooth as a baby bottom.

[mnpctech]

This pic looks like Black primer.

Its our first coat of paint. Its Krylon Black Gloss enamel paint. It looks like this after you've wetsanded w/ 800 grit paper.

You can see here I also filled in the motor's air cleaner so it no longer said "V-Twin" (duh)

[mnpctech]

another angle... Again, notice our groove is gone

[mnpctech]

After 3 more coats of Krylon Gloss Black, I removed the tape and go back wetsanding. I'll go from 800, 1200, 1500, and finally 2000 grit before buffing the finish. Before I buff, I've got more things I wanna do.

[mnpctech]

I gotta have my Flames! Making a template from paper

[mnpctech]

I cut these from a sheet of stainless steel w/ tin snips so the flames would curl. then finished off any jagged edges w/ Dremel drum sander attachment.

[mnpctech]

A little flame accent would be cool for the LEDs and Lock as well. On the right is another template I sketeched for the cut-out

[fillip]

that is sweet!

[Knipex]

Damn just finish it and put me out of my misery...........

I love it.........

I love it......

[mnpctech]

Thanks dudes! I'm going as fast as I can ;)

[dutchcedar]

You crazy!!! :unsure:

[mnpctech]

^ yes! :p

Shots of da access panel painted w/ Krylon Black Gloss enamel, wetsanded wit 800, 1000, 1200 ( I think that photo was @ 1200) then 1500 and 2000 before using power buffer and 3M Perfect It III rubbing compound

[mnpctech]

Two tone w/ Popsicle Orange Enamel

[mnpctech]

Wetsanded Orange same as Black. Heres our panel after buffing.. More photos of panels next week!

[mnpctech]

bbbbbbBlowhole time!

Youve seen these before, 92mm machined aluminum ring..

[mnpctech]

I want this one painted Black.

Since its aluminum we should use a adhesion promotor so the paint never peels or chips.

[kazuo]

WOW, I'm at a loss for words. You made my day :)

[mnpctech]

PPG DX503 is an Aluminum Conditioner (Alodine).

Alodining is the chemical application of a protective chromate conversion coating on aluminum. It can be used as substitute for primer, paint will stick to it and it provides protection against corrosion. Guess what else? No sanding.

Maybe some of you have considered painting your Aqua Computer parts at sometime? (heaven forbid, but why be normal)

In an ideal enviroment, you should submerge the part in a chemical tank, but most of us don't have one of those handy (guessing) So instead I'm wearing heavy duty rubber gloves and applying the alodine to my part with a rag.

Don't touch this stuff! It can cause irreversible blindness if its gets in your eyes!

WEAR GOGGLES AND GLOVES :eek:

[mnpctech]

Just making a point again here...

[mnpctech]

After you've applied the Alodine... I gave my part 3 coats with soaked rag..

Let it sit for 5 mins....

It will develope a Yellowish tint....

[mnpctech]

According to directions, you then rinse it off with water

[mnpctech]

Since I like to cover all of my bases, I'm still gonna apply primer before painting

SEM brand Self Etching Primer ....."there is no substitue"

Also available in White, Grey and Brown

[mnpctech]

After applying self etching primer, your aluminum part is ready for whatever color coat you want cause we prepped it the right way!^_^

[mnpctech]

WOW, I'm at a loss for words. You made my day

hehe :p thanks kazuo!

[fillip]

I want this one painted Black.

Since its aluminum we should use a adhesion promotor so the paint never peels or chips.Will you be selling these blowholes at you Mod Store?

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

I was rather dubious as to how this would turn out but the orange and black look stunning together. :eek: Nice work yet again Bill! :)

[toby]

thats a nice amount of updates i love the fact that its lo a mini guide in the worklog, great stuff keep goin!

[mnpctech]

Cheers gang! The only thing limiting me from faster progress is allowing paint to fully cure.. I wanna buff out the finish on the ring

Will you be selling these blowholes at you Mod Store?Thats the plan. I'm shopping around local machine shops for quotes on large quanities when I have time. Maybe December or early 2005 they'll be avail

[Silverstrand]

Since I like to cover all of my bases, I'm still gonna apply primer before painting

SEM brand Self Etching Primer ....."there is no substitue"

Also available in White, Grey and Brown
Argh. Where do you find this? I can't find any self-etching primer anywhere in the local towns.

[mnpctech]

Argh. Where do you find this? I can't find any self-etching primer anywhere in the local towns.
Try "AutoBody and Paint Supply businesses"

... Or handsontools (http://www.handsontools.com/store/show_product/?product_id=9109)

[Starbuck3733T]

Chemicals! fun!

Corrosion prevventer a? - you figure I could use that on aluminum panaflos IF i got the circuits out... that way they'd stay nice and shiny instead of getting alu oxide.

[mnpctech]

you figure I could use that on aluminum panaflos IF i got the circuits out... that way they'd stay nice and shiny instead of getting alu oxide.
DX503 is prep before color coating, it turns alum surface into yucky Yellow tint... However DX501 is a clear for surfaces such as bare alum :)

[Starbuck3733T]

Sweet, point taken.

How bad are the fumes off of it?

[mnpctech]

How bad are the fumes off of it?Like Paint thinner... Admittingly I didn't wear a respirator mask, but I know better and should have! .... :rant:

Don't get it on your skin or near the eyes!!!!!!

I would do it outside since you gots a young one now

[mnpctech]

also, after applying alodine, I'd clearcoat it w/ polyurethane gloss clear than wetsand and rub out finish w/ rubbing compound

[mnpctech]

"Get your motor running.."

Found time to get back to this project.. I luv this build so much I savor it. I don't want it to ever end.

I envisioned a blowhole evocative of a carb or gas cap assembly.


CNC Machined aluminum ring
Fan mounting grommets (http://www.mnpctech.com/Grommet.html)
U-Channel molding (http://www.mnpctech.com/UChannel.html)
CNC machined aluminum 80 to 92mm adapter
Perforated stainless steel
80mm Coolermaster RED LED



http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDBH/HDBH1.jpg
The "HD" was to be placed in center of mesh. I decided it was too much.


http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDBH/HDBH2.jpg
If you were lucky, you got to purchase one of the 50 cnc machined 80 -92mm adapters I made last year. Modder friends got freebies ^_^ Too bad I never engraved anything on them.

http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDBH/HDBH3.jpg

Fan mounting grommets (http://www.mnpctech.com/Grommet.html)
U-Channel molding (http://www.mnpctech.com/UChannel.html)
http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDBH/HDBH4.jpg


http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDBH/HDBH5.jpg

CLEAN MOD
http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDBH/HDBH7.jpg

[cools]

Whoa, I have an 80-92mm adapter that looks identical to that, except I didn't get it from you :unsure: Maybe I'll keep it if they're that hard to get hold of :)

[mnpctech]

That was the problem... I found out the market was already saturated with them from Asia @ half my cost.. Live & learn

[kazuo]

Hmm, Bill. I think I gotta set up a counter how many times you made my day :lol:

I really like those aluminum rings. Maybe I'll make a similar ring which holds an aquatube. That would be cool ^_^

[cools]

Ahh fair enough, I got mine from a US site when ordering a whole bunch of other bits not available in the UK

[Knipex]

Bill

Next time Im in the States I gotta pay you a visit... Gotta see the workshop for real and find out where you get all those little elves.. (or do you just not sleep)

[mnpctech]

Gotta see the workshop for real and find out where you get all those little elves.. (or do you just not sleep)

I dropped out of racing this year so I have more time. My car friends got fed up w/ my "no shows" and wrote me off. So that elminated my social life pretty much. My wife doesn't work, I've got 2 kiddies.. Racing wasn't paying the bills, but selling mods does :)

Lemme know, we'll take the Jetta out and terrorize!

[biggiy6]

Ok I got two questions for ya Bill since I am going to try and do this to my chieftec but do the mesh between the plexi for the door.

Ok first question what grit sandpaper did you use and can I do it by hand even though it will take longer?

http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/Intake/Intake/FF.grill5wb.jpg

Second and final question. What did you use to hold the mesh in place? JB Weld or hot glue? Thanks alot.

http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/Evercool/Evrcool4.jpg

[mnpctech]

Ok first question what grit sandpaper did you use and can I do it by hand even though it will take longer?

By hand, I'd try 200 - 300 grit.

Second and final question. What did you use to hold the mesh in place? JB Weld or hot glue? Thanks alot.

Neither..I bent mesh to fit backside lip.

[biggiy6]

Sweet thanks for the quick reply, Im gonna be ordering some honeycomp and the other type prolly monday or tuesday depends when I get measurements but tonight I must get rid of what is left from my fireworks into the bon fire!:D

[mnpctech]

Lin airbrushed his flames on top panel today :cool:


http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDBH/HDBHFlames.jpg

http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDBH/HDBHFlames2.jpg

[Starbuck3733T]

This is the part where I spoo, right.

Damn I love these realistic flames!

[fivecheebs]

Lin is a genius. Those flames look amazing.

[Darv]

Woah that looks great! Your mods are more pieces of art than anything else. ;)

[mnpctech]

They look sooo much better in person.

Yea, Lins definately got skillz

[FastRedPonyCar]

Wow man.. Beautiful. Just beautiful.

I'm working on a mid ATX antec case which is esentially the cheiftech and your front mesh grill has given me something to consider.

can this mesh be bought at somewhere like lowes or home depot?

[biggiy6]

WOW!:blink: That is awesome Bill! The gas cap fan idea and the flames on top that is genius and Lin has got mad skillz with an airbrush like you do your mods.

I just bought some honeycomp and roundhole off of you I am gonna do the mesh grill idea. BTW I guess it didnt empty my cart last week when I decided I wasnt gonna buy the roundhole and honeycomp but it was in the cart today so I ordered it when are you expecting more?


can this mesh be bought at somewhere like lowes or home depot?
I have gone up and down every aisle at lowes and home depot and searched online and have not been able to find any but what I found online was this giant roll and it was a few hundred dollars.

[fivecheebs]

can this mesh be bought at somewhere like lowes or home depot?
ahem! .... click mnpctech's sig and all will be revealed

[mnpctech]

BTW I guess it didnt empty my cart last week when I decided I wasnt gonna buy the roundhole and honeycomp but it was in the cart today so I ordered it when are you expecting more?

Just ran out of Round hole mesh 2 days ago.. If you ordered before Wed, youre good. If not, order the Honeycomb sheets you need and mention in Paypal notes that your biggiy w/ your email addy and I toss one of my own scrap sheets of Round in box.

Round version of MM should back in stock within 2 weeks.


can this mesh be bought at somewhere like lowes or home depot?

As biggiy stated, this type of perforated steel (22 gauge 5/32 staggered hole) is only found in large sheets (9' x 3') from steel distributors. I pickup these large FLAT sheets w/ my van from MN distrib and shear them down for resell.

You can however, find mesh pieces used as gutter guards @ Home Depot. It doesn't look as elegant and cool as perf steel though :D

[biggiy6]

Just ran out of Round hole mesh 2 days ago.. If you ordered before Wed, youre good. If not, order the Honeycomb sheets you need and mention in Paypal notes that your biggiy w/ your email addy and I toss one of my own scrap sheets of Round in box.
Ok I just put in the notes what I said in here and left biggiy6-wizd forums at the end.


You can however, find mesh pieces used as gutter guards @ Home Depot. It doesn't look as elegant and cool as perf steel though :D
I saw the guards at Home Depot and thought I had found it then I looked closer and it looked terrible. So yea unless you want giant sheets which I dont need mnpctech has the best prices.

[mnpctech]

YGM @ biggiy

[biggiy6]

Thanks for adding the round hole in so I could finish the case off. Soon as I get everything I just gotta do some cutting ship out a template for some plexi to be cut and then its off to paint and it will be done! BTW how long does it usually take an order to ship from your place Bill?

[mnpctech]

I try to ship orders out within 24hrs after placed. Otherwise 2 - 3 business days.

[biggiy6]

Ok cool so it should be here by the end of the week.

I am done with questions now, didnt wanna hijack your thread or anything but we need an update!

[mnpctech]

Lin finished the logo panel :cool: After seenig this, now I'm dying to get back to working on this case, but need to finish other projects first :( ;)

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDOct31Muralwb.jpg

My reflection in paint finish
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDOct31Mural2wb.jpg

[toby]

looking very very nice are you going to show any representatives of harley davidson the pics?

[mnpctech]

One of my customers works on HD's surface design staff in Old Mill. He passed along pics during earlier stages and the response was cool. They design the factory paint schemes, trim pieces and emblems for the bikes.

[fivecheebs]

hehe ... ive said wow for the last few updates of yours so im not going to say it again ;)

Those flames are beatiful. and the orange ones at the top of the logo are a very nice touch.

Whos reflection is that? yours or Lin's?

[mnpctech]

Whos reflection is that? yours or Lin's?

Mine :h34r:

Heres Lin with Indian Larry (left) from bike show earlier this year... before Larry's fatal bike accident :(

[dutchcedar]

Well sheeeit... that's just too schweet. B)


Were I the owner of a Harley shop, I'd buy a dozen... :unsure:

Very, very nicely done.

Class.

[Knipex]

OUTSTANDING MAN....


Just outstanding.......

[G-gnome]

Top work mate B). Workmanship for the rest of us to aspire to!

[Starbuck3733T]

Man, that's friggin awesome. I <3 that color scheme, tiz very, very sexxay

[Crimson-AC-]

http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDOct31/HDOct31Mural2wb.jpg

:eek:
i am really speechless!
that is just .... awesome

[mnpctech]

Thanks everybody!

g-gnome, I'll have to hang that comment up in da office ;) :D

[Endo]

Bill are you gonna show how you put the hdd trays in. and is harley davidson intereasted in seeing this this creation that is most ritchous?

[mnpctech]

^ Yes, I plan to show how I did HDD trays. HD's surface and paint design staff is aware of this project :cool:


I've talked about 3M Perfect It III rubbing compound a lot here. It is the ultimate paint elixor.

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/3MPerfectItIII.jpg

We must remove surface scratchs after wetsanding clearcoat w/ 1200, 1500 and 2000 grit Rhynowet sandpaper.
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Bezelscratchs1.jpg

Has a bird entered the room? By the size of it, I'd say it was the HD Screamin Eagle :lol:

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Bezelscratchs2.jpg

The secret is using several small swatchs of thick Terry Cloth bath towel ;)
Always use a fresh swatch to rub out the finish. Hey, its like wetsanding without the sandpaper and water :blink:
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Bezelscratchs3.jpg

Back on you go!
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDBezel1.jpg

I'm debating about painting flames around the engine or leaving "as is" for clean look about it. I want to make a Screamin Eagle logo for the black air cleaner.
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDBezel2.jpg


http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDBezel3.jpg

[fivecheebs]

oooh shiney! ... not 100% convinced on the engine casing, specifically the lower section, have you got a plan for the circle inset in the bottom? Perhaps ive just forgotten what you were going to do.

Those surfaces must be a bitch to take photos of. How did you take such perfect pics?

[mnpctech]

That would be the cam cover. Yea, it looks bare. I haven't decided yet ^_^


Those surfaces must be a bitch to take photos of. How did you take such perfect pics

Yes. for example, the first HD logo panel shot I did earlier, I borrowed black theater drapes from a professional photographer. I attached them to ceiling shrouded around the case. Otherwise everything in the room would be reflected back and deter from the mural. A bitch to setup shot, but whos complaining. :D

[BuffaloBoy]

Wow, that's some seriously impressive paint work. I tried wetsanding a couple weeks ago, seemed to work alright, but I cant seem to get the orangepeel out before it starts showing primer. Just need some more coats, I suppose. I think with a bit of practice I can get it. I bought some 3M rubbing compound...not Perfect It 3, but similar I think. One question, can this type of compound be used with a power buffer? That would make my life a bit easier. ^_^

I also saw you mention that you use Krylon...same stuff I picked up for my rig, except I'm using Gloss Banner Red and Gloss White.

I also recall you mentioning a clearcoat product called Defthane, or Deft or something like that. I looked around and was only able to find it in one hardware store, but it was $8 for a rattle can of it. My question is, is this stuff worth it? How well/ how easily does it buff out, and how durable is the finish?

[JBM]

I tried wetsanding a couple weeks ago, seemed to work alright, but I cant seem to get the orangepeel out before it starts showing primer.
Ive gone through my side panel 3 times now. I "thought" i had a good thick coat(of clear) on every time....part of learning how to paint i suppose.

Make sure the panel is perfectly flat before moving onto the finish paint.



Extreme work Bill !!!!

You must be the most patient man on earth, it looks perfect.

[biggiy6]

WOW! That is awesome, seeing it all assembled is the shiznit! I am also curious about the HD racks and the air filters for the intakes.

[Kickass]

Hi Bill

2 thermaltake smart fans would look nice on that case, they are orange,

Regards,

[Starbuck3733T]

That won't get old anytime soon.

[Knipex]

I tried wetsanding a couple weeks ago, seemed to work alright, but I cant seem to get the orangepeel out before it starts showing primer.

The trick is to make sure the primer is perfectly flat before putting on the final coats. If the primer has orangepeel then you are finished before you start. You CAN get away with adding loads of coats of color but its not only bad practice but time consuming and expensive. (it will take lots and lots of coats)

As for How durable the finish is ...... Well after the clear coat is fully dry (about a month) it will be at leat as hard and durable ass any automotive finish..

[mnpctech]

I cant seem to get the orangepeel out before it starts showing primer. Just need some more coats, I suppose. I think with a bit of practice I can get it.

Avoiding da peel.

1) Listen to Knipex, good clean and flat primered base coat. Wipe primered surface with Professional Tack Cloth before applying paint.

2) Apply lighter coats and wait longer between application intervals. Try 10 minutes dry time between coats.

Heat up can in bucket of hot tap water for 10 mins, then Mist the paint onto surface.. Hold can father away from surface, try 12"

Allow paint to cure @ least one week before wetsanding. Or even longer if its enamel which has longer cure time. 1.5 - 2 weeks


I bought some 3M rubbing compound...not Perfect It 3, but similar I think. One question, can this type of compound be used with a power buffer?

Yes.

I also saw you mention that you use Krylon...same stuff I picked up for my rig, except I'm using Gloss Banner Red and Gloss White.

Krylon paints found in retail stores are typically Enamel. They produce a higher luster shine and more durable than Laquer aerosol paints, but Enamels are tempermental as you've experienced. Take longer to wetsand and youre more liable to notice sratchs if you don't constantly clean the sandpaper. As a paint newb, start out with Plastikote or Duplicolor laquer paints.


I also recall you mentioning a clearcoat product called Defthane, or Deft or something like that. I looked around and was only able to find it in one hardware store, but it was $8 for a rattle can of it. My question is, is this stuff worth it? How well/ how easily does it buff out, and how durable is the finish?

Its the best consumer retail clearcoat I've used yet. You must wetsand it like paint before buffing out. Takes half the time to wetsand versus enamel paint. Apply 3 - 4 coats. More durable than leaving just a paint coat. If you wan't durable, go with powdercoating instead ;)

[Knipex]

Speaking of orange peel.


AS some of you know I work for a company that sells and services equipment for metal finishing primarily aerospace and medical implants.

We do however work with other industries including automotive, (I also have a strong interest in automotive particulary body repair finishing), woodworking and others.

One of our customers has a big problem with orange peel and currently have guys doing much like what we do to repair parts. For larger volume parts they have robotic stations to sand and high gloss buff the parts but for low volume work they cannot justify the cost and asked us to have a look at what was out there.

I found a company supplying an orange peel removal kit. Comprises of 2 air sanders. 1200 grit dry pad, 1500 gritt dry pad, 2000 grit sponge back wet pad, and a 4000 grit wet sponge back pad. Then they have 2 buffing pads and compound. I got in a kit to do some tests..... and the results are :eek: :eek: :cool: .


Absolutely amazing. I have seen and used the 2000grit and 4000grit pads before and found them OK but with this air sander they are amazing. You can now buff up a shine in seconds.....

For our american friends see here http://www.nationaldetroit.com/tools/tooldetail.aspx?model=Orange%20Peel%20Removal%20Ki t%20%234001

[biggiy6]

Sorry to go grave digging but whatever happened to those fan filters for the front grill?

[mnpctech]

no prob, I'm just waiting for stuff to arrive so i can get back on this.

Never any filters on this one to my knowledge.. You must be thinking of Excalibur (http://www.mnpctech.com/Ex1.html)

[zer0]

i though you where going to use filters because i guess you didnt like the way you could see the fans though the front grill or something. i think you mentioned it a wile back.

[mnpctech]

Ohhh..... yes, I remember now. Actually I'm now thinking of installing a couple of these instead. My brain always turns to mush this time of year :rolleyes: bear with me

[mnpctech]

These were too cool to pass up :p :lol:

Magnegrafix flexible flame magnets.

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/MagneRetail.jpg

Those are chrome, I got the brushed aluminum version

After cutting them w/ scissors, Yowza, that was too easy :cool:

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/MagneGrill.jpg

[dutchcedar]

^^^ Awesome find!!! B)

[Starbuck3733T]

I'd say!

[fivecheebs]

they look the dogs .... :cool:

[mnpctech]

Solid aluminum casters from Lian Li's Premium V Series Line. here (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=130_133&products_id=2117&osCsid=0a4eb7098736fb83bf7c6e3ed01a8759)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDcast1.jpg

Must pass my son's "taste test"
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDcast2.jpg

Make sure theyre nice and square. (included screws require 1/8" holes)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDcast3.jpg

Nice locking brake.
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDcast4.jpg

Daddy likey!
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDcast5.jpg

[Duffman]

paint them.

cute kid too!

[Canada_Dry]

nice, although I hope someone wouldn't actually "use" the wheels and take this to a lan and get it all scratched :mad:

p.s. I didn't know you cut out the bottom of the case...that gave me an idea :D

[Starbuck3733T]

You gonna put that floating section of the "D" back in?

[mnpctech]

You gonna put that floating section of the "D" back in?


There will be an acrylic base inside bottom. I can't find where I placed the inner "D"

[mnpctech]

I've given into those purty ACRyan LED fans again :wub:

AC Ryan "Blackfire" LED fans



http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/IntakeACRyan.jpg


http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/IntakeACRyan2.jpg

[Pug]

^^^ Dayum! Sweet as a nut Bill. :cool:

[fillip]

Me likey too.
Remind me, is this a personal case or a clients?

[biggiy6]

^^^ Dayum! Sweet as a nut Bill. :cool:
I second what Pug said:D

[mnpctech]

Thanks mates!

Remind me, is this a personal case or a clients?

Its mine, but everything has it's price ;)

btw: Production will begin within couple weeks for 92mm machined alum blowhole kit. Availability planned for end of Feb. Kit will include 1, honeycomb grill insert and 4, matching allen head fasteners to attach 92mm fan. Pricing not avail yet. MADE IN THE USA B)

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/UBH1.jpg


http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/UBH2.jpg


http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HBmTopWb.jpg

[Starbuck3733T]

sexxxxxxay.

[scopEDog]

Now THATS what im talking about

[Knipex]

you ever make them in 120mm I would be in for a handfull.

[Invalid]

PM me immediately when they are ready! Put me first in line!

[godfoot]

you ever make them in 120mm I would be in for a handfull. I second that motion...... all in favor?

Sweet-arse on the case too. Just like McDonalds.......... "I'm loving it!"

[fillip]

I second that motion...... all in favor?

Sweet-arse on the case too. Just like McDonalds.......... "I'm loving it!"
Far tastier than a McDonalds though! http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/wub.gif

[dutchcedar]

Nicest fan grilles EVER!!! B)

[biggiy6]

Love the fan grills

YGM also

[dreamreality]

Must pass my son's "taste test"
http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDcastors/HDcast2.jpg


I don't think those are kid safe, bill. lol ;)

The mod looks really sweet. I've ran out of words to praise your work lol.

[Defyant]

I think its fitting that my first post in these forums is here in your thread!

I've been admiring your work for some time now, and it's an inspiration,

Some of the most professional and original work in the modding scene

Another awsome case :)

[fillip]

Bill's a regular superstar in these parts, he's certainly the headline grabber of the bunch, probably due to the fact his work is always impecable - never seen a mod done badly, even if it wasn't to taste, and that takes some doing!

Why not drop a post in the 'Hellos and introductions' thread here - http://wizdforums.co.uk/showthread.php?t=51

[Off topic] I for one would like to know where in Oz you're from since it's looking likely i'll be emigrating there when my degree is done and i have some pocket money saved up http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/biggrin.gif

[mnpctech]

Cheers Defyant! Welcome to WizD

I plan to have this finished by mid feb. My stepfather has expressed a lot of interest in the case and has been wanting to replace his old pc. I don't know when I'd ever build a system for it. So this way it stays in the family and I can help him decide on a nice system.

To do list!

1)Finish front bezel
Add flames and detail V-Twin engine. I've been holding out for a nice HD 100th anniversary pin to set in the airfilter as a scale size badge

2) Install orange acrylic sheet in floor of chassis.
Should arrive this week. I may not even care for it until I see it first

3) Finish window.
Well, it won't exactly be a window anymore. I'm going to fill in each individual hole in the eagle cut out with matching aluminum pieces 1/8" smaller in size. They will be mounted on either an aluminum or clear acrylic. The intent is illuminate the edges of these pieces around the perimeter of the window. I like things that invite the viewer to touch it. I think the eagle design would be really cool to run your hand over. Especially illuminated

4) I wanna do something unique with the 1.5" space beneath bottom of case and floor created by the LL castors. I was thinking of cutting some flames in stock aluminum and mount them so it looks likes flames coming from behind the front castors. Interesting idea in theory, but maybe not so in reality.

5) I've been thinking of maybe having Lin do some airbrush artwork inside the chassis as well. Maybe flames... dunno, fleating thought

6) Still need to sort out 2, 92mm grills for exhaust fans. Originally talked to Bonzai about crafting me some V-TWIN style fan grills. I've got enuf confidence now that I could try making them myself from modeling clay. Or just make black Honeycomb grills.

back to work

[Starbuck3733T]

3) Finish window.
Well, it won't exactly be a window anymore. I'm going to fill in each individual hole in the eagle cut out with matching aluminum pieces 1/8" smaller in size. They will be mounted on either an aluminum or clear acrylic. The intent is illuminate the edges of these pieces around the perimeter of the window. I like things that invite the viewer to touch it. I think the eagle design would be really cool to run your hand over. Especially illuminated


Awesome, will the acrylic pieces fit flush and be sitting on an aluminum backer, or will they stick out. This is a very, very cool idea!

[mnpctech]

The protruding pieces will be hand polished aluminum and 1/8' smaller diameter than their coordinating holes (eagle cutout). I'll mount them on 10" x 10" (est) sheet of alum, rasied about 1/4" off back side of panel and illuminate the entire border of window. More of an illuminated panel design, not window.

I just got an another idea for the orange acrylic this morning. Its actually clear acrylic with flourescent amber. Make a HD logo panel window for the top section of the chassis ^_^

[Pug]

Damn you Bill... here's me trying to concentrate on training up the staff and all I can do is fantasise about your mods. :rant:

[Starbuck3733T]

The protruding pieces will be hand polished aluminum and 1/8' smaller diameter than their coordinating holes (eagle cutout). I'll mount them on 10" x 10" (est) sheet of alum, rasied about 1/4" off back side of panel and illuminate the entire border of window. More of an illuminated panel design, not window.

I just got an another idea for the orange acrylic this morning. Its actually clear acrylic with flourescent amber. Make a HD logo panel window for the top section of the chassis ^_^
If you put a matching sized piece of plexi on the backside hand-polished aluminium pieces and lit that by drilling through the aluminum baseplate, that would look quite hot too. It'd also be more even than just lighting the edges of the window, which may not give uniform lighting distribution since the backer is square and the design is not.

[mnpctech]

lol @ Pug :lol:

I hear ya Star. How about this, 4 bars of Orange LEDs (maybe 6 per bar) aimed towards center, mounted between backside of panel and mounting plate. Any suggestions where can I find pre made bar or rod of super bright orange leds? :) I've seen red led in 12" bars...too big

[mnpctech]

put a matching sized piece of plexi on the backside hand-polished aluminium pieces and lit that by drilling through the aluminum baseplate

Using your idea, how about mounting LEDs in edges of the plexi instead?

[scopEDog]

lol @ Pug :lol:

I hear ya Star. How about this, 4 bars of Orange LEDs (maybe 6 per bar) aimed towards center, mounted between backside of panel and mounting plate. Any suggestions where can I find pre made bar or rod of super bright orange leds? :) I've seen red led in 12" bars...too big
Something like this (http://www.customdynamics.com/Images/step02.jpg)?

They have some cool lighting at that place

[mnpctech]

Yea scopE, I used those in Hellbound's bezel. Haven't seen Orange LEDs though

[Starbuck3733T]

Using your idea, how about mounting LEDs in edges of the plexi instead?

Man, I need to whip out my awesome mspaint skills. I'm getting confused.

If you did like so: (looking at the edge)


=== == == == == (polished aluminum details)
================== (orange acrylic w\ edge lighting and sanded to difuse the light)
================== (aluminum backer)

[mnpctech]

Thats it!

and awesome mspaint skills they are!

[godfoot]

Yea scopE, I used those in Hellbound's bezel. Haven't seen Orange LEDs though
You can replace them with orange LEDs, unless you mean you haven't ever seen orange ones.
If you haven't, they can be had if you get ahold of Lokie or Twizted at DragonModz.net....... just got some this week to apply to the Animals project when I get the non-mobo side window etched.

[mnpctech]

YGPM @ godfoot

Another update ditty.. Chassis window install (luv those simple mods :))

HD logo cut by Dremel.. Heres my guide (http://www.mnpctech.com/Dremel.html)

Clear Amber acrylic
3M Clear Heavy Duty mounting tape (strong)
razor blade

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDwin1.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDwin2.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDwin3.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDwin4.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDwin5.jpg

[Gordy]

Looks stunning keep up the good work :)

[Starbuck3733T]

And all this time i was expecting to see it mounted on the inside. silly me.

[mnpctech]

Thanks Gordy B)

Star, youre correct. I initially planned to cover the bed of the chassis w/ acrylic and dremel out a recessed portion for the "D" and thought about illuminating that.., but I'm going to concentrate my efforts on the panel design instead. I'd like to get the project done w/ system installed within 1 month.

On another note, I still do plan to show how to execute the HD cage mod w/ 2, 120 x 38mm fans. I've been scanning through my photos on/off over weekend. Theres some crucial steps I can't find :(

The basic idea..

Before (2, 80mm intake fans)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/C120a.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/C120b.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/C120c.jpg

After
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/sideAFTwb.jpg

I think I can scrap together what I can find for the tutorial. Its just not going to be as clearly laid out as I originally intended it..

[fillip]

Big kudos as usual! ;)

[fivecheebs]

That window looks amazing. Very effective :)

The front 120mm fan mod looks interesting. I have a couple of questions on it looking at those photos but you'll probably answer them later on, so ill sit on them for a while.

[mnpctech]

These photos reveal how the cages are supported

In it's stock state, the Dragon's 2, HD cages slid into 2 shelfs attached to the front of chassis.

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/C120b.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/C120c.jpg


In order to clear the 38mm thick fans I had to set back the HD cages. Notice that I've attached one of the shelfs beneath the upper cage.

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD120fin2.jpg



The trick is that you have drill out and replace the 2 steel tabs (beneath lower 5.25 and also upper HD cage) with machine screws. Now the HD cage locks have something to clasp onto.. follow? :)

steel tab (originally intended to guide upper cage)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD120fin4a.jpg

replaced with 8/32 machine screw
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD120fin4.jpg

On top of lower HD cage
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD120fin6.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD120fin5.jpg

Presto! The cages are still removable :)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD120fin3.jpg

Now you got "big gun" 120 x 38mm Panaflos in your Dragon :cool:

Fans are offset because they're positioned directly in front of HD cages.

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD120fin1.jpg

[Starbuck3733T]

Nice! What we talked about so many nights ago on the phone finally comes to fruition :) (or, you documented it at least ;))

[fivecheebs]

Thats really really clever. So do i understand that the levers actually grip the machine screws holding the cages up?

This might have to be one for my case. I wonder if i can make it work with my rad and narrower papst fans.

[mnpctech]

Nice! What we talked about so many nights ago on the phone finally comes to fruition (or, you documented it at least )

Yea, finally :)

What held it up..

My intent was to devise this mod for people w/o welding equip/skills.
I originally used JB Weld to attach 1/8" washer to the steel tabs. The top washer held up for 3 cage removals until it weakened and popped off. Then I decided I'd try silver soldering the washers onto the tabs w/ propane torch. The washer couldn't hold up to enuf heat to really get a nice solder... Then I finally succumbed to drilling out the tabs. During all of this was the expected arrival of my son and my wife being placed on bed rest for 3 mons.. So you can understand while the mod got shelved for so long. So all of the photos have the JB weld version. I just need to sort a different photo sequence.

So do i understand that the levers actually grip the machine screws holding the cages up?

Yes.

You will discover that you need to bend down the floor of the lower 5.25 cage because the HD cages will be a little crooked (lean downward) You can bend it by applying pressure with your hand inside the lower 5.25 while standing in front of the chassis. I didn't take a photo of this because it was more of a look asthenic thing for me.

[biggiy6]

Mad props to you, I have a chieftec server case that is coming in soon I am gonna take a look at the front and the cages and I might just convert the front to dual 120's while my bezel is in surgery:D

[$ilent\\'@rrior]

Thanks mates!



Its mine, but everything has it's price ;)

btw: Production will begin within couple weeks for 92mm machined alum blowhole kit. Availability planned for end of Feb. Kit will include 1, honeycomb grill insert and 4, matching allen head fasteners to attach 92mm fan. Pricing not avail yet. MADE IN THE USA B)

http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/aWIZB/UBH/UBH1.jpg


http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/aWIZB/UBH/UBH2.jpg


http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/Hellbound/Mural/HBmTopWb.jpg
Do you think that ally blowhole would look nice on the side window of my Chieftec case???
A nice 92mm fan blowing cold air onto my graphics card I think would be a great idea !!!!!
Got any prices yet??

[mnpctech]

Yeah it would B) also look cool on a 92mm PSU intake fan. I know Enermax uses 92mm fans.

Prices won't be announced until they're available.

[Pug]

Do you think that ally blowhole would look nice on the side window of my Chieftec case???

You have to ask? :confused: ;)

Can't think of anywhere they wouldn't look nice, meself. :wub:

[mnpctech]

Just finshed this. Its one of the "castor flames" ... it will mount beneath the chassis behind one of the front castor wheels ... krazy :blink:

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDFC1.jpg

[fillip]

So in the picture it's upside down yes? as the 'L' bracket stuck to it will bolt underneath the chassis.

I have to admit, I was a apprehensive when you first mention the idea but now i'm thinging it's gonna look pretty cool.

[mnpctech]

Yes and I should have them finished by weekend.

(thinkin out loud)

Got the Orange leds/resistors for window yesterday. Should have the
waterjet pieces to fill the eagle design within 2 weeks. Working now on the upper chassis acrylic panel for laser etch HD logo. Finish the V-Twin w/ HD emblem. Have Lin add some flicker style flames around V-Twin, wire up the fans to 3.5 mitron, start ordering system components for AMD 64 system...whew! -_-

[mnpctech]

Finished castor flames this morning. I used the 3M adhesive again. Same adhesive used for Orange acrylic window. The arc of the flame is about 1/8" off wheel. It was a bit off. I filed it down by hand, eyed it up, they look tits!

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDFC3.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDFC2.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDFC5.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HDFC4.jpg

[Kickass]

wow they look the dogs :wub:

[Pug]

OMFG!!! They are just the sweetest! :eek: :cool:
You sure kept quiet about them this morning! I'da been ravin' about 'em if it was me... ^_^

I love the polished radiused edges too. I don't think they could look much better. :wub:

[Knipex]

Amazing finishing touch..................

Amazing..............

[fivecheebs]

haha, please dont take this the wrong way bill. They are amazing. I did have to have a little chuckle to myslef though, not because the look funny, because they absolutely dont, its just the idea of flames coming off the wheels of a computer case that made me laugh.

Looking into my crystal ball i can see that the big reveal will be as impressive as it was for "the wall".

[mnpctech]

Thanks guys. I really do appreciate it :wub:

I'm gonna try and ignore "scope creep" before something else becomes adorned w/ flames :p

(must focus on completion...., but I'm having so much fun)

[Starbuck3733T]

I hear you brother... trying to focus on completion, but rethinking the insides (which are just as much a part of the mod in my case as the outside) is just sooo much fun.

[Gordy]

Looking ace , can't wait to see this one finished :)

[godfoot]

Your work never ceases to amaze me Bill.
BTW, check your PMs, I have an offer for you to consider. I am moving to Texas soon and wanna unload some weight.

[UrbanAssassin]

Another awesome mod by mnpctech. Looks AWESOME!!!

[mnpctech]

Its still alive!

Peek of progress on side panel artwork.

.5" 6061 aluminum pieces of Eagle design (reversed) arrive from customwatercuts (http://www.customwatercuts.com)

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/Waterjetpieces.jpg

LED illuminated perimeter of window (base for pieces)

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress.jpg

[Starbuck3733T]

we've all heard of "kill bill".... but thats ill bill!!!

what are the white things?

[mnpctech]

Haha! Thanks :D

Just some shipping tube caps used to elevate the acrylic as I soldered the LEDs. They do look a bit precarious now looking at them :huh:

[fivecheebs]

http://prudhoe.codeword.com/mnpctech/HD100/HDWin/HDWinProgress/Waterjetpieces.jpg


My oh my! :o :wub:... this is going to look so much better than i expected :D

[fillip]

[Peter Griffin] Holy crap! [/Peter Griffin] :blink: :h34r:

[Pug]

Damn.

I hate being lost for words. :angry:

...but with Bill's stuff, it's a regular occurrence. :blink:


I guess I'll just hafta get used to it. :D

[Knipex]

Nothing I can say .....

Nothing :eek: :cool:

[biggiy6]

[Peter Griffin] Holy crap! [/Peter Griffin] :blink: :h34r:
What he said:eek:

[mnpctech]

6061 alum can polish up real nice.

Supplies needed:

Bucket of water w/ couple drops of dish soap.
800, 1000, 1500 grit wetsand paper
3M Mag & Aluminum polish (part# 39529)

I start wetsanding aluminum w/ 800 grit paper
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics//EagleWinProgress1.jpg

After wetsanding with 800 grit paper. Then I wetsand
w/ 1000 - 1500 grit paper before using 3M aluminum
polish
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress2.jpg

After rubbing out finish w/ 3M aluminum polish (Before / After)
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress3.jpg

6061 aluminum shines up real nice
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress4.jpg

Theres my wedding band reflection
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress5.jpg

[SoRgI]

really nice work, best aluminium surface ever seen ^_^

[dutchcedar]

Dang willikers, that's creepin' up on the realm of fine art and jewelry... :o :wacko: B)






My crystal ball sees an Eastwood polishing rig in your future, Bill. <_<

[Leeum]

Amazing work Bill :D We all know how much a pain in the ass it is to polish up aluminium, but once you have it's well worth it ;)

[Sk8phreak88]

Thats all I can say, you do amazing work! I never thought you were in MN, just thought it was short for somethin else! I'm down here In Coon Rapids with about .003% of the 62,000 of us are modders lol Nice job keep it up man!

[ỒĊBłůē]

OMG! :blink:

Is there any modding that you've tried and can't do? ^_^

[SoRgI]

OMG! :blink:

Is there any modding that you've tried and can't do? ^_^sure he can mod even a washing machine ;)

[zer0]

yeah its bill we are talking about (i think its bill... first time i ever said his name) he can mod anything...

/me looks at his mod and crys.

[mnpctech]

Thanks gang B)

The pieces took me about 3 hours to polish. I propped the side panel cut out over these piece last night... Holy Cow! this will look awesome :eek:

Next I'm gonna show how I illuminate the 12" x 12" acrylic panel that these pieces will mount on... Watch for update either 2nite or tommorow.

[fivecheebs]

Man i cant wait! Im still a little confused about how this is all going together so it will be good to see what your thinking.

I have only one very minor critisism on those ali pieces. A man of your skills and attention to detail (especially with this case) i would have thought you would have removed those cut marks on the edges. Will they be visible? Maybe the camera makes them look worse than they are.

[mnpctech]

You'll just have to wait until its done cheebsy :D

[fivecheebs]

haha ... you tease .... I dont want to wait :rant:*stamps feet*

[Starbuck3733T]

Woah </bill+ted> Woah </neo>

[fillip]

haha ... you tease .... I dont want to wait :rant:*stamps feet* [over-patronising baby talk mode] awwww, c'mon, show the little baby some more [/opbtm]


p.s. Another 5* rating for Bill

[mnpctech]

Only a small portion of the sides of aluminum will be exposed. None the less, they're a tad fugly. Lets clean them up

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress5a.jpg

Dremel attachments I used in order from left to right
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress6.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress7.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress8.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress9.jpg

3M fine grit sanding block.. Dampen with water... just a tiny bit
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress9b.jpg


http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/EagleWinProgress9c.jpg

At this point, if you want a mirror-like finish, then wetsand the sides with with 800-1000 grit, then 3M aluminum polish, but again... very little will be exposed in the panel.. so this finish will suffice.

[biggiy6]

OOO shiney. You had me thinking you were gonna put it together on the panel.

[Starbuck3733T]

Dat's the touch.

[zer0]

yeah looks realy awsome as always cant wait to see more...

[drago]

yeah looks realy awsome as always cant wait to see more... you ar the bast bill

[fivecheebs]

Now thats what im talkin' about! B)

oh god the suspense of seeing how this will be mounted is killing me:rant: ^_^

[mnpctech]

A pictorial update.. Lemme know if you have any questions pertaining to the steps I've photographed..

Part 1 of Illuminated 3D Panel Design Mod

Supplies Needed:

1' x 1' 0.25 (1/4") sheet of Cast clear Acrylic
mcmaster.com (http://www.mcmaster.com)

1' x 1' sheet of .040 Mirror-Like (#8) Aluminum
mcmaster.com (http://www.mcmaster.com)

12, 5mm LEDs from
performance-pcs.com (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=60_235&products_id=2553&osCsid=27ae3c957e5b0eb61bd02cbf3581a764)

12, 470 Ohm resistors
performance-pcs.com (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=60_235&products_id=2553&osCsid=27ae3c957e5b0eb61bd02cbf3581a764)

3 pin pwr connector

22 AWG hookup wire Red/Black (Radio Shack)

Solder Iron (Radio Shack)

.032 Fine Rosin Core Electrical Solder (Radio Shack)

Spring clamps or "Helping hands Vise" (http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=60_143&products_id=2496&osCsid=184a81e0ecc1c1ff34babb291b152228)

Heatshrink tubing (Radio Shack)

Butane hand torch > to shrink heat shrink (Home Depot,
Lowes)

Power hand drill

3/16" Drill bit > strongly recommend using brand new
bit

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram1.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram2.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram3.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram4.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram5.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram6.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram6a.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram7.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram7a.jpg

[drago]

nice work bil .

[biggiy6]

Nice update. So when are you gonna drop everything you are doing and work on this case until you are finished lol:lol:

[Starbuck3733T]

Awww man, can't wait to see the whole package - should be real hot.

edit: omfg I just pulled a <hilton>

[ỒĊBłůē]

edit: omfg I just pulled a <hilton>
I hope it's Paris - enjoy! ^_^

[fivecheebs]

Nice guide there mate B) Ive used similar techniques before to make a string of LEDs. Cant wait for part 2 your doing this to me on purpose arent you :p

Only one question. Is there a reason you chose to run the LEDs from a 12v supply over 5V? Ive always found that larger resistors get quite hot when not wiring up several LEDs in paralell with one smaller resistor (i guess because the larger one is working harder to reduce the current more). I wonder what star's take on this is too.

[Starbuck3733T]

don't run LEDs in parallel on the same current limiting resistor, you're in for a case of thermal runaway. as far as why they get hot, you're pulling more current through them and current in a series circuit is all the same. so you've got a parallel combination of LEDs but a single current limiting resistor in series with the parallel combination, its current is the same as the current for all the LEDs combined. Other than the afforementioned fact that it's a no-no to do that, you'd want a resistor with a higher power rating. mnpctech's in this guide are 1/4 watt, 1/2 watt is common. Show me a circuit and i'll explain further :)

IAAEE (I _AM_ An Electronic Engineer)! (who sucks at analog on occaison)

[zer0]

but if you run all those leds in series and one burns out (might take a wile but it will happen) then all of them will turn off thus you have to run though and test them all (im shure you know this senario from christmasstree lights.)

my bigg question is why did you deside to use a plug like that as thos plug in to your motherboard and if the motherboad thinks that fan isnt needed (motherboard will think its a fan) then it will dim or turn off your lights...

[Starbuck3733T]

don't run in series either, 1 resistor per LED, period. that in my educated opinion is the right way. which is exactly what bill is doing, a parallel combination of series circuits (1 resistor + 1 LED). A less confusing way of saying it (not looking at the overall) is that he's just running a bunch of LEDs with their own resistors.

I think this is all blah blah blah blah :eek: :wacko:

[zer0]

oh ic also couldent you put some sort of heatsink on the resister if you had all those leds running off of it?

[fivecheebs]

Im sorry, my post wasnt clear. I have only run 2 kinds of led circuits from 12v. one where each has its own resistor, one where 2 or 3 share a resistor (i now see the problem with this). I have also made 5v led circuits where each led has its own resistor. What i was trying to say in my last post was ... I have found that the resistors on the 12v circuit run noticeably hotter than thier smaller bretheren on a 5v circuit when each LED has its own resistor.

Sorry for the slightly OT Bill :unsure:

[mnpctech]

Sorry for the slightly OT Bill

No prob mate :)

[Starbuck3733T]

if you had enough LEDs that you were drawing that much current, just get a higher wattage-rated resistor. You shouldn't be in that situation, save for a Luxeon Star.

edit: bill, cheebsy, lets fire up another topic in modding techniques if you want to pursue this further.

[dutchcedar]

Once again Bill, your update is both fascinating and well presented. It also gives me that ole' WTF feeling, because it leaves me full of curiosity and impatiently waiting for the next "update". :o :rant: :wacko: :lol:


If my imagination rings true in the effect you're trying to get from this, it should be stunning if it works. B)

[dRjEkKyL]

wow !!

is it finish yet??? i cant wait...

[mnpctech]

Thanks everybody!

(welcome to new guy :))

Man, I wish it was finished.. I've got some other projects I need to post ;)

I worked on the panel progress again this morning... Almost there!!

Final details after this panel is done..

Lin will airbrush flames around V-Twin (bezel door)..

Make custom 120mm grill incorporating HD emblem (possibly from old gas tank) for XP-120 HSF...

Decide upon fan controller/install

Then he wants me to build AMD 64 system... including PSU (Probally Antec Neopower sleeved by performance-pcs) Mobo, memory, 2-HDs, Sound card, Optical drives, LCD monitor, Keyboard, Mouse

[Starbuck3733T]

So you're doing the integration thing too... wow.

[mnpctech]

Yea Star, which is awesome. I'd love to integrate the Orange/Black HD paint scheme into the peripherals ie: LCD monitor, keyboard, mouse, but I'm running up against a promised delivery date :(

Happy Easter!... I'm at the in-laws today. Catch up with you all later this week with updates

[Starbuck3733T]

I think DFI makes a board with all glow-orange stuff. That'd be pretty slick.

I just wish i could find an all flat or flat/gloss black mix mobo - humbug on stealthing.

[godfoot]

I probably doesn't need to be said again..... but wow! B)
Excellent work once again and such fine attention to detail.
<Guinness_x_6>Brilliant!</Guinness_x_6>

[mnpctech]

Part 2 of Illuminated 3D Panel Design Mod

FINISHED 3/28/05

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9n.jpg


Supplies needed:

Windex (any generic glass cleaner)
Rags

3M #4041 Heavy Duty adhesive tape. (I used this
earlier for window) You can find it roll at some
Hardware stores and Home Depot. Its rated to hold up
to 2pds! :o

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/HD3Mwin5.jpg

3M Scotch Weld D-190 (2 part Epoxy)
3M Epoxy Applicator
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram7b.jpg

Clean the surfaces
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9a.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9b.jpg

Applying 3M adhesive tape
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9c.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9d.jpg

Apply much pressure to the tape for maximum adhesion
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9e.jpg

Apply aluminum sheet to window. The other side has
been wetsanded and polished for reflecting LEDs
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9f.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9g.jpg

Measure before modding. 1/16th" gap to spare after
closing access panel :wink:
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9h.jpg

Notice smoother finish on the aluminum window backing
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9i.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9j.jpg

Use a rag to dab the Epoxy droplets.
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9k.jpg

[Vis]

Sweet mother of all that's cute and fluffy! That is absolutely magnificent!

[Leeum]

Holy moly that thing is godlike! :eek: You truly are a mod god!

[dutchcedar]

Hey Bill... this is simply amazing!!!

Your work is beyond reproach and the design of the eagle, well... its just the shiznits of a design.

B)

[drago]

Hey Bill... this is simply amazing!!!

you ar No-1 in the old world

[Starbuck3733T]

OH muh FSCKING GOD

:eek: :wub: :wacko: :wub: :eek:

First time I've ever seen that done. I think we'll be seeing it again, because that's just INSANE!

I'd love to see it in person, I have a feeling the night shots don't do it justice.

[Vis]

I was thinking that in the dark the light pattern will shift as you walk around the case. Hmmm... yaknow Minneapolis is only a six hour drive from here ;)

[ỒĊBłůē]

:blink: :blink: :blink:

All that's already been said ^^^^ and more

That is stunning...

[mnpctech]

Thanks for the props guys!

Remeber that game Operation? Don't touch the sides!
http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9l.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9m.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9n.jpg

http://www.mnpctech.3dpixelnet.com/images/pics/LEDdiagram9o.jpg

[drago]

Thanks for the props guys!

FYI: ScotchWeld D-190 is awesome for melding metal pieces to schtuff.. Truely :wub:

yea, my canon powershot S40 blows chunks for low light shots :mad:
my canon A-75 to