im sorry - 1 last question.

[MR POO]

ok last question i hope before im all set.

i want to use 3/8 inch tubing for my rig i think, all i can find is barbs that are compatible which is ok i just wonderd if any of the plug and cool stuff worked that size, or 10mm push fits or whatever.

3/8 will make my life a bit easier when it comes to other components.

thanks

[fillip]

3/8 is equal to 10mm AFAIK :unsure:

[Knipex]

There is a slight difference in size (very slight) but if it was me I would use the 10mm tube with 10mm pushfit..

3/8th = 9.525mm


possibility of leak.

[MR POO]

yeah i think i will and a few hose clamps to make sure.


thanks

[Darv]

You also have to think about the type of tubing you are using with push-fits. It needs to be stronger than usual so that it doesn't collapse when you connect it.

[Fibbles]

They make 10mm pushfits? I thought AC only had barbs for 3/8 and pushies for 1/4. Enlighten me!

[Knipex]

for 10mm hose use 10mm pushfit

for 3/8 hose use 3/8 pushfit.

Fittings are available in 6mm 1/4, 10mm 3/8 and various other sizes.

They have been in use in pneumatics circuits for years.

[Nexxo]

Whoa, whoa, hold the train here!

If you're referring to 3/8" ID tubing, that won't fit in 3/8" pushfits. With pushfits you need to consider the OUTSIDE diameter of the tubing.

Tygon with 3mm wall thickness is strong enough for pushfitting, but remember that 3/8" ID tygon in actual fact measures about 16mm OD. It's all a bit complex and I'd suggest that if you want pushfits, stick to the German narrow tubing; if you want 3/8" ID tubing, stick to conventional barbs.

[Knipex]

AFAK all tubing is sold as OD dimension not ID but I could be wrong...

[Fibbles]

I have Tygon 8mm tubing, but the OD thickness won't allow it to work on a Plug and Cool or an Innovatek fittings. The Aqua Computer Plug and Cool hose has much smaller OD, thus allowing it to work on a pushfit or the Innovatek style screw on fitting.

Isn't 1/4" more or less equal to 8mm instead of 6? If 3/8" is considered 10, 1/4 should only be a step lower, err, nevermind.

[Greeny]

Roughly

1"=2.54cm

1/4"=6.3mm

[MR POO]

it really gets confusing all this metric and them imperial measurments.

i will go for the 10mm barb to let me use the 3/8th - the plug and cool is just to small i think for me.

shame ive moved to the usa but there is a store in the uk thats selling 1/2 inch re bored aqua tubes - seems pug should have done that too.

i bet they will sell tons - im up for one shipped to me - even though il lstil luse 3/8 it just makes it more upgradable and future proof.

[Fibbles]

shame ive moved to the usa but there is a store in the uk thats selling 1/2 inch re bored aqua tubes - seems pug should have done that too.

i bet they will sell tons - im up for one shipped to me - even though il lstil luse 3/8 it just makes it more upgradable and future proof.
The tubes should be left alone :) There's just something about low flow that I love. I quit using my 1/2" system (waterblock, tubing, clamps and all) for some nice German cooling. Everyone complains that low flow isn't "extreme" enough, but it works great for me. 99% of the parts also look really good too, so what more do you need?

Bigger isn't always better... ;)

Maybe one day America will open up to 1/4" and the Joy of Aqua Computer, and all the other German makers, of course.

[MR POO]

dammit dr fibbles, just when i start to make my mind up. hahah.


yeah im not sure a/c stuff is like 6mm id, i just fancied an extra few mm.

thing is i do do a fair bit of overclocking, even my lil old shuttle has a 2.4c at 3.3gig - im just a bit worried it might not be able to cope - esp if i stick on a gfx block.

i will probablyget a nexxos xp block or whatever but that looks really restrictive with that nosel on it, hence it might me a idea to get a bigger tubing and a bit of a bigger pump.
did not pugs custompc set up use bigger tubing to win.
if he had used smaller 6mm i bet he would not have faired so well especially with that block, he used a more poweful pump also.

i think that 6mm is to lower flow for definate- 3/8" is best i think - surley if pug had that much faith in the 6mm tubing he would have used it?

cheers

[Fibbles]

Right now I'm running at 3.6 from 3.0. I have my Cuplex EVO block on my P4 and a GPX Radeon block on my OC'd 9800. I have no issues with temps, I do have an improvement over my 1/2" stuff, but it could be cause I'm uisng a dual radiator. I have no idea what the flow rate is (I'm looking into flow meters) but my temps are pretty low. My CPU averages 36° to 40° C (acc to MBM and it's probably off). That's a pretty good temp to me, at least.

A friend of mine has this:

Pentium 4 2.6 @ 3.4GHz, Abit IC7 Max 3, 2x256 Kingston Hyper X PC4000, ATI 9800xt, WD Raptor, Sound Blaster Audigy 2. Cooling by Aqua-Computer and a Black Ice Pro II radiator.

The Black Ice has been re-bored to BSPT (I think, I do know that it was mightily expensive to convert). The CPU block is a Cuplex EVO and he has a Twinplex for his chipset and his GPU. His temps are very low as well. His pump is the lovely 12v Aqua Stream and his ressy is an Aquatube.

Again, bigger doesn't always mean better <_< Keep in mind that if you use a low flow block, it will restrict the rest of your setup, if you plan on using bigger tubing.

The thing reviewed by CPC is one set. Look at what he sells, it's mostlyl 6mm. Only Pug can answer that one though.

[MR POO]

ok mate that it well done u have sold me.

plug and cool is such a good system i was lothe to use barbs.

yeah ill use a triple 120mm fan rad so i sould get pretty good temps.

i was wondering will the external docking module allow me to put the fans on the bottom, as on the top i think looks poo.
i want them on the bottom sucking air through - if it dont ill just make a few feet t oraise it up so i can.

yeah im not to sure about that nexoos block though it looks very restrictive with them nozzels.

and i think that aquastream pump is a total rip off there are loads of 12v pumps out there that are better and cheaper - well over 100 bucks here.


cheers fibbles

[Fibbles]

My NexXos (not sure how its supposed to look) hasn't given me any problems. It seems to be the same size as most Aqua Computer parts. According to Pug, you need the APE Docking Modules, not the External one, those will allow you to mount the fan to the underside (I'm getting some too). He has them on his catalog, in the rads section, I believe. For the pump, you can easily just use an Eheim 1046, 1048, a 12v 1046, a 12v 1048 (the Innovatek HPPS), any of the Timmer Coolpumps or the AlphaCool ones if you want 12v capability. The Aquastream has a little 3.5" bay plate, so you can use the pump inline or submerged, based on how the cord attaches from the pump to the control bay. The control bay is nice, it will allow you to run the pump for filling and bleeding, by turning itself on and off periodically when jumpered. Take off the jumper and it runs continuous. It will also alert you to any problems, and the Aquaearo (my spelling is off ^_^, it's a 5.25 sweeto control panel) will allow you to control and overvolt (so they say) the pump. It also controls 4 fans and has LOTS of nifty features. I plan to buy one later this year. Otherwise, have fun with your stuff. Later on they (AlphaCool, I think) will have universal adapters, so you can attach a BSPT thread to anything. So you'd be able to slap them (with lots of glue :unsure: ) to any radiator.

My Abit IC7 Max 3 needs a new chipset heatsink (the fan is horribly noisy), so I'm going to buy an Aqua Computer Twinplex soon. I could also quite possibly grap an Alphacool one from Pugs' store. Heck if I know which one yet, and that's the fun part. <_<

[Darv]

The nozzles on the NexXos block wokr in the same way as the Cacade. It doesn't matter that it's restricting because thats the point.

And the with the Aquastream you get what you pay for but it's greatest feature is that it can hook up to an Aquaero.

[mrplow]

NexXxoS* ;)

[MR POO]

yeah but i have a black widow and for some gay reason its bare stell or bust with the a/c bay plates.
buggers, i would love black.

[Psykotik]

I have the Black Widow too, and am eliminating the problem of unmatching drives by spraying my own that I cut from an alu panel.

I seem to be getting a bit beter at mirror finishes, and my latest bit looks quite good after a "grit n polish"