Shuttle mod help needed

[Invalid]

Hey guys. I am working on my latest project (want to get a decent amount done before posting a log), and I ran into a small problem.

I am basically installing a shuttle computer into a full tower case. None of this s a big deal except for how shuttle has the electronics done for the power button, power led, reset, and HDD activity leds. Basically there are no wires its just a small circuit board with one plug for all of them. (Will post a picture soon but batteries dead in cam).

I am wondering if any of you have any experience in finding a way to allow me to use a different switch and such for it all. Or is there no way to do it?

Other than this small snag this project is going well. Any help is greatly appreciated as always.

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[zer0]

im not quite shure what you have to work with but if you have a series of pins to play with try jumpering them might not be the greatest idea in the world but its one way of finding out witch one turns your computer on and off.

[Invalid]

Wouldn't I run the risk of messing up the board though if I just plug things in and try them?

[ỒĊBłůē]

If the buttons and LEDs are soldered onto this PCB, can't you just desolder them and add some leads going to wherever you want your replacement buttons and LEDs? :huh:

[Pug]

What board/machine is it?
Any tech docs/diagrams in the absense of pics?

I'm guessing the individual pins conform to standard distances apart...

You should be able to trace the circuits back from the various switches/LED though. Shouldn't be too hard to do by eye (in my mind) but a continuity tester might help (which you can make out of a bulb, piece of wire and a battery in the absense of a multimeter, leaving no need to resort to guesswork/experimentation. :-)

Pics of circuit & connector would be invaluable to those of us w/out a Shuttle to hand if you can possibly muster 'em though.

[Starbuck3733T]

I've seen boards like that before, they're just a mount for a bunch of switches. Very rarely are there any active electronics on that board. I'll wait for the shot to confirm, though.

What you'll want to try to do is follow the circuit board traces back to the header that the single plug connects to. Then determine which wires connect to which pins on the mobo for the power/reset. short those temporarily (as in touch them with a screwdriver for a second or so) and see if the machine kicks on. It should. My old shuttle (OLDDDD, 1GHz P3) works the same way. I've used the screwdriver-as-power-switch for a long, long time with Goliath's board with no issues.

I can say with pretty darn high confidence you won't hurt anything by doing this. The +5V lines on the mobo for the LEDs already have current limiting resistors on them, so even if you do short them to ground they'll be fine and no damage will come of it.

Check your mobo manual for a pinout of that header, too.

And Link us, please?

I just realized I wrote pretty much the same stuff as pug. :duh:

[Invalid]

Thanks for the replies guys. I am going to get some batteries and such now to take pictures of what i am referring too as I cannot find anything on the web for it.

Thanks again for the help thus far!

[Invalid]

Sorry for the delay here are the pictures

http://www.eboze.com/aerox/plug.jpg

The bottom board has the power led, hdd led, power button, and reset right on the board. Then via some wires it connects to the board that has the audio and usb connections. And then from there it connects to the motherboard via the silver cable.

So as you can see on the mobo itself there is no jumpers.

Thanks again for any help.

[ỒĊBłůē]

I think you'll find that the ribbon connector onto the PCB will unplug, it's just a case of getting your fingernails (if you have any) into the notches at the ends.

You might be able to follow the traces a bit easier with the cable unplugged.

[Starbuck3733T]

yeah it will unplug.. push in on the ends while pulling back. And there are no actives on that board, you should be able to follow the proceedure that pug and I suggested above. If you get stuck, post back. Failing that, we could work somthing out with the USPS ;-)

[Pug]

Ah. A ribbon connector.
Now I see your difficulty. :mellow:

It's hackable but you've got a bit more work than I'd hoped. :shrug:

[Invalid]

sigh. I was afraid of that. I have no idea what to do here. Anyone know of a How To anywhere? I am a complete noob when it comes to anything out of the ordinary. =(

[Starbuck3733T]

sigh. I was afraid of that. I have no idea what to do here. Anyone know of a How To anywhere? I am a complete noob when it comes to anything out of the ordinary. =(

YGPM.

[jaguarking11]

sigh. I was afraid of that. I have no idea what to do here. Anyone know of a How To anywhere? I am a complete noob when it comes to anything out of the ordinary. =(

Where in NY are you? If your near I can help you with that thing. I am no starbuck when it comes to it but I have soldered a fiew headers in my time and tracing the wires can be very easy with a multimeter. Btw im in Queens NY.

[Invalid]

oops. I really need to update my location. I moved to back to Michigan full time months ago. :duh:

Star> replied

Thanks for the offers guys.

[Gordy]

hi

If you look in the motherboard manual you should find that there is onboard jumpers for the power switch etc as well as the ribbon cable.

Depending on the specific model it should be near the front left edge of the motherboard.

Download the manual for the specific model.

[Starbuck3733T]

I thought he tried that already... that would certainly be an easier route!

[Gordy]

If its for your current mod , I'm guessing you have the sn95g5 by the look and layout of the motherboard (god its scary that I can recognise shuttle mobo's quickly :D )

http://www.eboze.com/aerox/shut.jpg

The connectors are at the bottom right of the motherboard on that picture just next to the white ide connector at the front of the motherboard.

I'm guessing its the version 1 of the motherboard but here is the manual of that one ftp://ftp.shuttle.com/Manuals/en/fn95/fn95en.zip it will show the pin out for the connector P16 for its location and pin layout (JP12)

[Pug]

Nice one, Gordy. B)

It's been a couple of years since I toyed with a Shuttle, so it was hard to call up from memory (but then again, you can never underestimate the power of knowing which manual to read... ;-)).

[Gordy]

I had to check tbh , as the only boards I've checked before now were ones without the ribbon cables but I was fairly certain shuttle would have kept the headers for oem sales.