very weird power stuff...

[zer0]

ok here are my issues.

i mentioned before that when i turn my computer off it turns right back on and that is very annoying. now a new problem arised while playing wow my computer will shut off for no apperant reason. all temps are fine and are lower than i had before when it wouldent do this so it cant be an over heating issue.

im realy not liking this motherboard because of thease weird issues so im looking in to other mother boards/prossesor combanations witch i might buy with my $500

here is the motherboard i have been looking at recently.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813170147
its from albatron and it has a great layout but the only thing i dont know is how good the acpi support is now anything elts so an answer to how it proforms and how it works with linux would be perfect.

[fivecheebs]

lol ... i didnt think yoiu were s'posed to spend that $500 on computers!

Im not sure this is an issue with your board TBH. It sounds like something else. Is this when your running wondows and linux? (do you have / is there a linux wow client?).

Does the system restart of just switch off?

On to s939 mobos, Id look at the MSI NF4 offerings if you didnt want DFI. I dont know anything about that albatron.

[zer0]

in windows the computer turns off and stays off for about 5 minutes then it turns back on.

when the computer turns off it dosent come back on however the power led stays lit.

no there is no linux wow client however there is a rumor that they are/have worked on one there is even a screen shot showing it but nothing beyond that.

i have looked at msi's oferings and i must say they are very appeling but i want to turn my current mobo and cpu in to a server (in linux it has no problem staying on it only crashes in wow) so i need a few things to make that happen. i also just read a review showing proformance is on par with most larger brands so

for msi how about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813130492

[jaguarking11]

If your going to go amd I would recomend somekind of asus board but dfi borads seem to be all the rage in amdville.

As for going for a p4 board I would go for the abit aa8xe with 925xe chipset. Good board and very stable.

Also how does your psu hold up btw? Sounds like your geting a large voltage droop. And dont trust mobo monitors for this, plug in a multimeter on your 12v line (very important line for modern machines) and try to get it to restart or crash or something. Look at the voltages. Sometimes a bad psu will droop as low as 10v on the 12 rail witch eaquals crash easily. I had crashes because my psu went under 11.3v on 12 rail but it was due to overheating. You should at least have 18amps on 12 rail to run a p4 and 22+ if you want to oc. Presscotts are very power hungry.

[zer0]

according to my mobo my 12v line is a bit low at 11.71

ill check the 12 volt line in a little bit but im taking a small break from dinner to let all the good food settle... (its nice to have my moms cusin over witch is a realy good cook (apple and cornbread stuffing in pork chops is what we are having...))

[zer0]

ok now im back after my chocolate amand granmarne cake with fresh home made mocha and chocolate covered coffie bean ice cream...

anyways is 11.71 volte low? could that be causing the weird power on after i turn my computer off problem?

[Greeny]

To check it throw your multimeter onto the 12v yellow line on a molex and onto any of the black lines on the same molex. It is normal for the motherboard to be slightly off actual so I would not be concerned at it saying 11.71V. I'll have a look again at your board and see if I can come up with anything on the power issue over at the DFI forums.

[Greeny]

Could you post the model number of the board please? I can't seem to find it around anywhere.

[zer0]

Could you post the model number of the board please? I can't seem to find it around anywhere.

i have a DFI Lanparty UT 915p -T12

yeah testing the voltage is just waiting on me finding my multimeter.

[jaguarking11]

11.7v is fine actualy. Make shure you dont go under 11.3v overclocked.

[zer0]

i ordered a new power supply because my computer just crashed 2 times in a row and if that dosent fix it im blaming it all on you guys :P

also a new update my 12V+ is 11.71V my 12V- is 1.42V

[Pug]

Don't worry too much about the readings on your -ve power lines; they're pretty vestigial.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think anything actually uses them any more (apart from a 17v mod).

[Greeny]

Correct!

Negative lines are seldom monitored correctly, if at all on most boards.

Has the computer been stability tested zero? Your problem definately doesn't look like a common issue. If not start with memtest86/memtest86+ and if that passes with flying colours move to Prime95 torture test in windows.

I'd recommend doing this out of the box, strip the motherboard out and lay it on an antistatic bag or something and do a bench test. This issue does sound like it may even be some sort of short.

[Greeny]

I finally found something which might be usefull. The question would be do you have an EMT64 CPU, the next question would be have you flashed to a newer BIOS to support said CPU? I found a wee post about the other board which will apparently keep rebooting without a BIOS update if an EMT64 CPU is used.

Please determine BIOS version if necessary, it'll be on th POST screen of your BIOS (the initial splash screen). It's usually on the bottom of the screen on DFI's. Press pause during the boot process if it's flashing by to quickly to read and escape or enter to resume booting.

The problem would come when having to flash the BIOS as it's a bit of a kamikaze maneouver on a constantly rebooting machine. You might need a non EMT64 CPU for the flashing process. Or balls/nerves of steel.

[zer0]

I finally found something which might be usefull. The question would be do you have an EMT64 CPU, the next question would be have you flashed to a newer BIOS to support said CPU? I found a wee post about the other board which will apparently keep rebooting without a BIOS update if an EMT64 CPU is used.

Please determine BIOS version if necessary, it'll be on th POST screen of your BIOS (the initial splash screen). It's usually on the bottom of the screen on DFI's. Press pause during the boot process if it's flashing by to quickly to read and escape or enter to resume booting.

The problem would come when having to flash the BIOS as it's a bit of a kamikaze maneouver on a constantly rebooting machine. You might need a non EMT64 CPU for the flashing process. Or balls/nerves of steel.

i do not have an emt 64 cpu and i have upgraded to the lates bios.

[fivecheebs]

I'd recommend doing this out of the box, strip the motherboard out and lay it on an antistatic bag or something and do a bench test. This issue does sound like it may even be some sort of short.

Before OC says im going to say this....

Dont run a system ever on an antistatic bag. They are conductive, and if you dont get problems with that it doesnt take much heat to melt one, then that could be really bad. A piece of cardboard is a much safer idea.

[Greeny]

The soft spongey bags are allright to put the board on, dont like the thin shiney plastic ones, they look like they mite short something. Sometimes get a nice bit of sponge with the boards as well. I'd use that unless I had a Prescott. ;)

True though some of those new boards/CPU's draw enough juice to start melting plastics and suchlike, a word of caution is a good idea. :thumb:

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

i use motherboard standoffs which raise it off the ground. Takes slightly longer as you have to attach the standoffs using other screws but it works.