Road Tax

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

OMG its gone up again! :o

I got my renewal form through the post and i'm now £170 for a years tax or £90 for 6 months. :rant: I bet they dont even spend it on the roads either

[Starbuck3733T]

Youch.

And I thought the $50 registration per year was bad.

why's it so damn high? fewer folks with autos to share the cost?

[fivecheebs]

Gits ... complete Gits

[Starbuck3733T]

Gits ... complete Gits
what's a git? :confused:

[fivecheebs]

Git

n : a person who is deemed to be despicable or contemptible; "only a rotter would do that"; "kill the rat"; "throw the bum out"; "you cowardly little pukes!"; "the British call a contemptible person a `git'" [syn: rotter, dirty dog, rat, skunk, stinker, stinkpot, bum, puke, crumb, lowlife, scum bag, so-and-so]

yea .. and they (the government) are blody greedy too.

[Psykotik]

Utter bastages. No doubt they'll spend it on bloody Gatsos or something.

Bastage is my word of the week by the way.

[ỒĊBłůē]

B*stards! :angry:

They'll probably use the extra money to fund research into the proposed 'pay as you drive' scheme.

B*stards!:rant:

[Pug]

/Me huggles my Cannondale. :wub:

:-p

[GodsUnicorn]

/Me huggles my Cannondale. :wub:

:-p

Me huggles the wife............She paid for the road tax.:-p

[Knipex]

what you bitching about......

Look at this (http://www.eforecourt.com/php/cartax.php).....

I pay €487 for 1.9tdi.

[jaguarking11]

ouch.

Maybe they should take the tax money and widen your roads....

[Knipex]

ouch.

Maybe they should take the tax money and widen your roads....

But if all the roads were staright and wide where would be the fun in driving ???

What would be the point in owning one of these (http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/) or these (http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/frames.htm) ???

You gotta have some fun left in life.

roads like this (http://www.harriet80.freeserve.co.uk/yr2004/ire04_062.jpg) and this and this (http://www.motor-forum.nl/forum/misc/67924) and this (http://www.neidin.net/camping/road.jpg)... reall fun.. Why cant I find some good pictures..... :-(

[fillip]

What would be the point in owning one of these (http://www.westfield-sportscars.co.uk/) or these (http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/frames.htm) ???



But at the same time if you live somewhere with loads of speed bumbs there's no point in having those anyway.

As for the big, long straight roads, thats why US cars don't have steering right? :huh:

...now I see why Clarkson sent his GT40 back :duh: He couldn't even turn out of his drive way

[Knipex]

And why they still use a transverse leaf spring setup in their sports cars...

Way back in 64 Carrol Shelby decided this setup was outdated and created the 427 cobra with unequal wishbones and coil springs... And even he admited that he should have done so in the 50's....

[jaguarking11]

Well fortunetly for US aour roads are designed with safety and work in mind. There is no point in having a twisting and turning road if there is no need to. If the urge to drive around corners quickly arises I take my butt to the track where I cant hurt other motorists minding their own bussiness.

And if the feeling is that strong I take my butt http://www.laguna-seca.com/ there and call it a day. There is a reason why they have race tracks. In NY state alone there are more than a fiew tracks. big and small. Whether it is a 1/4mile drag strip or a dirt 8track or even a rally style track I have acess to them and most of them will let you race all day long for a fiew dollars. That must mean that cars actualy do have steering dont they?

Oh and if anyone is interested here is the track locator. http://chasinracin.com/track-locator/states/ny.shtml and thats one of many.

[Knipex]

I think you have taken me up wrongly here.

I love to drive. I can put up 1000 miles a week with work but still on the weekends I can get into my car and just drive.. Especially when I had the westfield I used to love taking a drive up the coast road. Not racing, not speeding just driving. 50 miles per hour (less in spots) on those roads (well within the speed limit and perfectly safe) and I would come home with a big smile on my face more relaxed that after a weeks holiday.

2 hours on a motor way at 70 or 80 just makes me tired and grumpy. I have driven quite a it in the US both in cities and and outside on both the east and west coasts and I have to say that the same thrill was just not their. Even on the pacific coast highway in a rented Mitubishi Eclipse spider (back in 97)...

Our cars and driving styles and prefferences are down to the roads we drive on. American roads lead to corvettes nad Mustangs and big V8's our roads lead to smaller lighter more nimble handeling cars. As the European raos network has developed into todays motorways our cars have also become bigger and heavier more american if you like. BUT European motorists are used to having the old roads and they still exist so we demand a different handeling car than Americans. This is why American cars do not sell well in Europe. On the other hand European cars do sell in the US. Perhaos it is bacause Americasn are starting to like the "half way" cars of europe today or perhaps they preffer the handeling combined with the more powerfull European cars (in comparison to european cars of the past) I dont know.

The result is that the "european" car that I love are dieing off and that is the reason I got into classic cars. I still want that old style handeling, I dont care if my car tops out at 80mph as I will never even see 80mph on the roads I like to drive.

I also have driven on racetracks (not in the US though) and while I love the speed and thrills and nice flat even surface with smooth bends will never match the fun of a country road. The sad part is that the country roads are also being replaced with nice straight motorways and I for one mourn the loss.

[jaguarking11]

Guess you and me have diferent tastes and what you just described does sound fun. But I tend to like crusing around town more. I can think of no better evening than taking a muscle car out and making some noise. I also am enfatuated with the gurgle of a big v8 and the feeling you get when 400lb of tourque press you against your seat. Not to mention cruzing around just for the heck of it lisening to music and taking it easy.

I tip my hat to you.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

what you bitching about......

Look at this (http://www.eforecourt.com/php/cartax.php).....

I pay €487 for 1.9tdi.

Ouch. My £170 doesn't seem to bad now.

[Greeny]

Bah mine's due in a week or so... I'll be feeling your pain in the near future. MOT just cost me £355 an all.

[Starbuck3733T]

I feel bad for the folks with the huge V8s...

that only goes up to 9999cc? (which is 9 litre). What about the huge hauler diesels.... I believe cummins (jk11 will correct me if I'm wrong) makes a 12 litre diesel.

[Knipex]

9999cc is 10ltrs (or 1cc off)

That price list is for private motor cars only all commercial vehicals have a seperate (much lower) rate.

If you have a classic car (ie a car over 30 years old) there is a flat rate of €42 road tax for the year.

[fillip]

I always thought there was no road tax in mainland UK for classic cars. :huh:


Maybe that's wrong...

[Knipex]

Nope you are correct.

In mainland UK classic cars are exempt from paying road tax but still have to display a tax disk (supplied FOC). Ireland however is different.

[fillip]

Nope you are correct.

In mainland UK classic cars are exempt from paying road tax but still have to display a tax disk (supplied FOC). Ireland however is different.

Yeah, sorry, was thinking you were N.Ireland for a moment there and that the sam would apply.
You really do get stung in Eire don't ya. Expensive place.

[Starbuck3733T]

9999cc is 10ltrs (or 1cc off)

That price list is for private motor cars only all commercial vehicals have a seperate (much lower) rate.

If you have a classic car (ie a car over 30 years old) there is a flat rate of €42 road tax for the year.

Darn my lack of coffee!

If'n I were in your part of the world, I'd be driving a classic for sure!

[Greeny]

It's bad enough having a 10 year old rustbucket nevermind a 30 year old one. :D

[Knipex]

No it aint cheap here but Petrol is cheaper than the UK.
Also Cigaretts and (at least in comparison to London) Drink.

Cars are also much more expencive here than the UK. Our overall income taxes are lower and I believe our rates of pay may be slightly higher also. Also we do not have a Poll tax.

[Starbuck3733T]

Oh god... another tax. What's the poll tax?

[ỒĊBłůē]

Also we do not have a Poll tax.Neither do we, fortunately. They've replaced it with a tax on your house called Council Tax instead.

(and plenty of other stealth taxes :angry:)

Star - Poll tax was a tax you paid for the privilege of being 18 or over - a very popular idea dreamed up in the early 90s

[Knipex]

Na we dont have council tax (or any property taxes either for that mater)

[fillip]

Council taxes basically pay for things like service maintenance - pipes, pavements, verges and anything else that local councils are gien authority over. thing is, the tax is badly used and results in them throwing money at anything towards the end of the tax year just so they don't lose any additional govt. contributions they get.

[jaguarking11]

I feel bad for the folks with the huge V8s...

that only goes up to 9999cc? (which is 9 litre). What about the huge hauler diesels.... I believe cummins (jk11 will correct me if I'm wrong) makes a 12 litre diesel.

cummings make everything from inline 6 6L motors all the way up to 17L. Contrarty to popular belief though the fuel economy on cummings motors is very good for its size. You can get about 20mpg Us doing about 60mph highway fully loaded in a properly configured hauler. Most get over 18 and led foot truckers that drive city an get less than 5mpg. The thing that strains those motors is geting up to speed and slowing down (uses engine as a large hydrolic/air breake)

My fav motor is the cumings 14L cuppled with two large turbos. Can you say 1100hp @ almost 2000lb of tourque? Monsters they are. And best of all its old school diesel, meaning no plastic parts in this beast.

Sorry for ranting.

[Pug]

Funnily enough, my bus was a 10 Litre. The running costs were laughably, inversely proportional to the size of the thing.

10 Tonnes and 14' 9" tall, yet Road Tax was free (1956 classic); it was MoT exempt then I managed to find an insurance company that only dealt with classic vintage buses and they did me fully comprehensive for about £100 a year. :eek: :cool:

God, I miss it... :-(

[will79]

Hi was just gandering the net when i found out that my car is TAX BAND C which is £55 6 months or £110 12 Months It's a 2.0 HDi 110 BHP

I've just taxed it and was charged £175:shock:

I can only pressume I've been :shock:vercharged???

I am however going to ring DVLA tomorrow and see what advie they give cause to be honest I'd much rarther have £65 in my pocket than on my windscreen!!!

Anyone else had this problem, know what to do?

[Psykotik]

Holy thread revival Batman!

This is a bit of a bizzarre first post for a watercooling enthusiast forum mate, can I ask you where you were redirected from/how you found us?

As the thread has been revived: Yes they are robbing arses, I paid my small £175 for the year the other morning :-(

[will79]

dont know was just searching road tax and this forum come up ive tried ringing them today and cant get through its all automated