Cheep auto paint [Archive]

zer0

13th July 2005, 06:51

ok for those of you who dont want to go the powder coating path and for those of you who wich to paint cars or larger things have a look at this paint. the quality seems to be very good as people seemt to be raving about it and the price is very good too do with it what you will but here is what i have found.

http://www.paintforcars.com/

also can some one post the painting PDF thing for me i wana print it out to help my bro paint his bug.

(ohhhh ahhhh Gun Metal Grey ohhhh ahhhh)

Starbuck3733T

13th July 2005, 16:10

You'll still need proper equipment though... sprayguns for sure... and an air compressor to run them off of.

fillip

13th July 2005, 16:28

You'll still need proper equipment though... sprayguns for sure... and an air compressor to run them off of.

It's only gonna look good if you follow the same processes required for painting cars etc... i.e. a shed load of prep work and work in between the layers of paint. As I said in another thread, getting a pro. paint look definately isn't cheap.

dutchcedar

13th July 2005, 17:01

^^^ Aye... if only the biggest expense of a great paint job were the paint... :D

mnpctech

13th July 2005, 17:11

Love PPG (http://corporateportal.ppg.com/ppg/) :ignore:

BigBen2k

13th July 2005, 20:16

zer0

13th July 2005, 21:54

well in terms of the paint job the paint is prety cheep you could always reuse your gun compresser and so on on other projects. its a choice for me because my bro is going to school to lean about painting cars and is alreay aquiring all the stuff he needs to paint cars and cases this way.

a small question wont the heat involved in powder coating harm fiberglass and bondo?

fillip

13th July 2005, 22:56

a small question wont the heat involved in powder coating harm fiberglass and bondo?
See Starbuck for that one, he had some issues with Bondo or some other filler releasing gas when it was heated for the powder coating, so yeah, you need filler that is heat resistant to very high temps.

Starbuck3733T

14th July 2005, 04:27

Will not work, period.

The stuff has to be cable of carrying a charge, ferrous if you will, for the powder to stick. you can do it on aluminum but it requires reversing the charge, and even then it still requires electrical conductivity (which jbweld has to an extent) to work properly.

The jbweld was not perfectly mixed (near impossible to get a perfect ratio) and therefor outgassed under the temperatures of the baking oven, and caused what led me to create "powdercoating fuckup cover plates."

In short, don't do it.

Pug

14th July 2005, 09:12

Aww, I'm not typing it again... :-p

Link (http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=30696&postcount=6)

fillip

14th July 2005, 13:22

Aww, I'm not typing it again... :-p

Link (http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showpost.php?p=30696&postcount=6)

I was gonna say someone just posted up a product suitable for P'coating, thanks for confirming I'm not going insane just yet. :D

Knipex

14th July 2005, 15:03

Good link, thank you! I prefer shopping online, when possible.

The hardest part about painting that way, to me, is what's needed in terms of space; i.e. turning a garage into a spray booth. (sealing doors, running filters, ...), then getting a compressor and a spray gun (STILL on my list).

A quality paint booth will give you the best finish with the least amount if touchup.

Sealing up a room and will not help unless you can get filtered heat air flow.

If it was me (and it was)

I would just wet down the floor and walls to keep dust down.
Run masking tape or similar under doors etc (to keep out dusty drafts)
Open one or 2 big windows and put an fly screen across them to keep out the bugs and still let in air.

You get pretty god results and minimal effort. If a compressor and spray gun are out of your budget (and do not be tempted to buy a cheap compressor or gun) look on e-bay for a basic air brush. You can run them on cans of compressed air and with practice results are every bit as good as a spray gun (ok a bit slower but a case is small). And you can use any automotive paint.

I picked up mine for small money and picked up a dozen cans of propellant for £12. later you can pick up an airbrush compressor if you wish.

I painted teh side mirror and half the door of the mustang with mine (after some twat ripped off the mirror and damaged the door) and it turned out perfect. You will be amazed at how little paint you use and how long the can of propellant will last.

fillip

14th July 2005, 15:36

I intend to do the exact same thing as Knippex @ some point in the future - I have a shuttle mod in mind but it's at the back of the line right now. For painting a shuttle I did actually thing about building a mini booth using some polythene sheeting some cheap pine from old shoe racks (or similiar kinds of crap) and hack a hole in the side to use as an exhaust ent whereby a 120mm fan could be mounted. The booth wouldn't need to be bigger enough to accomodate much more than just the case, your hands and a spray gun - allowing for a bit of movement around the case ofcourse. It may not be very preofessional but it should help keep some dust and bugs away and it wouldn't cost very much either.

Starbuck3733T

14th July 2005, 15:37

I was gonna say someone just posted up a product suitable for P'coating, thanks for confirming I'm not going insane just yet. :D

And my memory seems to block that it exists. :duh:

Pug

15th July 2005, 17:53

^^^ Star's in denial. ;-) :wiz:
You can run them on cans of compressed air and with practice results are every bit as good as a spray gun (ok a bit slower but a case is small). And you can use any automotive paint.

I picked up mine for small money and picked up a dozen cans of propellant for £12. later you can pick up an airbrush compressor if you wish.

You can also get an adapter to run 'em off a car tyre. :thumb:
...
'Nother tip for minimising static build-up on metal partsIf you're spraying a metal piece, ground it with a earth strap made from a piece of wire and a crocodile clip or similar (in an inconspicuous place) to stop static from attracting any remaining dust.

Bambini

15th July 2005, 18:14

if you can get em to run offa car tires... can u get em to run offa tire air compressors, or would the psi be to great?

fillip

15th July 2005, 18:18

if you can get em to run offa car tires... can u get em to run offa tire air compressors, or would the psi be to great?

If the tire air compressor can be regualted then yes you can, not sure if it's an unregulated compressor, I would guess not for the reasons you suggested. But in saying that, some of the big graity fed guns take a high psi rating to work properly, esp. the ones used for whole car body resprays.

Pug

15th July 2005, 19:03

Forgot to mention a fluid trap... pretty indispensable sometimes, if you're using a car tyre or anything above a table-top compressor.