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ok im fixed my last problem with my res and it worked very well but i still am getting air in the system.
i know it coming from the reservoir but i dont know how its doing it.
the res is compleatly full there is no way i could add any more water so while the system is off the inlet and outlets are compleatly covered by water but for some reason if you look at it while the pump is running the outlet is only half covered with water obviusly if i open the res and try to fill it while it on a shit load of water will come out and get everything all wet (beleve me i tryed it...) so if i turn the system off the res is back to normal and is compleatly full. i dont see how this is happening.
(also no matter how much i perge every componit of the system i have this issue.)
also i think if i turn the res on its side (with pump outlet at the lowest point ) it would fix this issue but im afread i dont have any way of keeping it that way in my system. as almost every nook and cranny of my case if filled.
biggiy6
28th May 2005, 04:27
How long has the setup been running? I know with mine, I had air bubbles out the ying yang and it took a while for every last one to get out.
Run it for a few hours then see how many bubbles you have.
well a short answer is it has been running scene about 4pm yesterday...
(water cooling realy is quiet it just the bubbling thats loud)
well i know for a fact that the pump is getting air because i have seen it.
dutchcedar
28th May 2005, 04:55
I have a suggestion. It'll cost you a dollar... two at the most... and will certainly solve your problem... if your air is generated at the reservoir, that is.
Get hold of a "T" fitting, 12" (six inches in a pinch) of extra tubing, a plug to match your tubing size and the appropriate clamps for four connections. Any solid, round thingamajiggie, the size of your tubing's I.D. will do for a plug.
Drain your system enough so the reservoir is empty and the hoses to the reservoir are mostly dry. Unplug both hoses to the reservoir and put the two hose ends onto the straight sections of the "T" fitting and clamp them. Use an extra length of tubing about 12" long, fit it and clamp it to the perpendicular leg of the "T" fitting. This tubing will be your fill point.
Now fill your system, keeping the fill point above your case. When its full, plug the end and clamp it.
Run the system. The air in your lines will find their way to the 12" length of tubing which is now above your case. Keep filling it as the tubimg empties, never letting the twelve inch length of tubing become dry (empty).
When the air is out of your system, shove that twelve inch length of sealed off tubing somewhere into the upper reaches of your case and check it occasionally to see if you're losing fluid.
Final step... find something to do with that reservoir. It might make a good whiskey flask or flower holder... :lol:
I hope this helps and truly think it will solve your problem. <_<
I have a suggestion. It'll cost you a dollar... two at the most... and will certainly solve your problem... if your air is generated at the reservoir, that is.
Get hold of a "T" fitting, 12" (six inches in a pinch) of extra tubing, a plug to match your tubing size and the appropriate clamps for four connections. Any solid, round thingamajiggie, the size of your tubing's I.D. will do for a plug.
Drain your system enough so the reservoir is empty and the hoses to the reservoir are mostly dry. Unplug both hoses to the reservoir and put the two hose ends onto the straight sections of the "T" fitting and clamp them. Use an extra length of tubing about 12" long, fit it and clamp it to the perpendicular leg of the "T" fitting. This tubing will be your fill point.
Now fill your system, keeping the fill point above your case. When its full, plug the end and clamp it.
Run the system. The air in your lines will find their way to the 12" length of tubing which is now above your case. Keep filling it as the tubimg empties, never letting the twelve inch length of tubing become dry (empty).
When the air is out of your system, shove that twelve inch length of sealed off tubing somewhere into the upper reaches of your case and check it occasionally to see if you're losing fluid.
Final step... find something to do with that reservoir. It might make a good whiskey flask or flower holder... :lol:
I hope this helps and truly think it will solve your problem. <_<
that is a very good idea luckaly i have some tubbing left over. However in my new project alpha (showthread.php?p=25517) will have a fix for this and i plan to start working on it soon so for now the air wont be an issue.
Starbuck3733T
28th May 2005, 18:42
I'm gonna go out on a limb and tell poor zer0 that I think he's got a loose connection on his pump that's sucking air - that's where your bubble sound is coming from, the intake of the pump.
Did you use teflon tape? do you have any plumbers goop? (it's the watercooler's duct tape)
Fibbles
28th May 2005, 18:49
I'm gonna go out on a limb and tell poor zer0 that I think he's got a loose connection on his pump that's sucking air - that's where your bubble sound is coming from, the intake of the pump.
Did you use teflon tape? do you have any plumbers goop? (it's the watercooler's duct tape)
^_^ Sounds very probable.
I'm gonna go out on a limb and tell poor zer0 that I think he's got a loose connection on his pump that's sucking air - that's where your bubble sound is coming from, the intake of the pump.
Did you use teflon tape? do you have any plumbers goop? (it's the watercooler's duct tape) well explain this then i have witnissed bubbles going from the res to the pump.
also we have the clamps on both the intake and outtake of the pump that are torqed down very well. (oh yeah i need to post pictures...)
also i have a slight heat problem it seems the inside of my case is realy getting warm this isnt effecting my water cooling but it is getting hot enough that the side pannels are warm to the tuch.
fivecheebs
28th May 2005, 22:28
Star isnt on about how well the tube calmps are tightened, but the actual fitting where it screws into the pump housing. Did you use any plumbers tape (PTFE)? you need to seal the threads too with tapered fittings, and it can be tricky
well explain this then i have witnissed bubbles going from the res to the pump.
Possibly the fitting in the outlet of the res needs sealing?
Star isnt on about how well the tube calmps are tightened, but the actual fitting where it screws into the pump housing. Did you use any plumbers tape (PTFE)? you need to seal the threads too with tapered fittings, and it can be tricky
Possibly the fitting in the outlet of the res needs sealing?
well i dont know of any other non permanate way of sealing it than i already have it...
teflon tape around the screw part of the fittings and a clamp holding the tubbing on the fitting.
dutchcedar
30th May 2005, 05:03
I think zer0's got himself a case of cavitation... that's why I recommended bypassing the reservoir. <_<
jaguarking11
30th May 2005, 05:27
I think zer0's got himself a case of cavitation... that's why I recommended bypassing the reservoir. <_<
Well I figured he would get cavitation with that pump so I recomended a reobus for it when he was puting it together. The loop can be tweaked to optimal noise and performance balance with a good reobus.
The best way I saw for fitting a bay-res to avoid this problem was in CustomPC's ultimate rig at Modfest.
They used a Coolermaster case that they fitted it vertically in (together with an optical drive either side).
Inlet at the top, outlet at the bottom of the res == worries over.
might i see a pic of this i cant seem to find any7 images (i think your talking about the magazine)
I don't have one handy but the bayRes was turned on its side (through 90°).
It meant that the barb outlet to your pump would be under more water and less likely to suck the same gobbets of air though that I believe theirs' was prone to.
It was a high flow pelt-chilled set-up in blue with a window etch if that helps to jog anyone else's memory.
I have the mag it was in but not here, unfortunately.
i desided im going to do the fill port idea ill order a danger den fill port becasue its perty and if i re arange my drive order so nothing is on the top i can put it on the top of my case.
this should get rid of all the noise problems im having with my loop.
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