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Da_Rude_Baboon
25th May 2005, 16:02
As voted by channel 4 viewers so its UK/Euro biased.
http://www.channel4.com/4car/100-greatest/results/100-91.html
fillip
25th May 2005, 16:18
Interesting, though some of those cars shouldn't be anywhere near the top 100, while there are som that are absent too. <_<
furious trout
25th May 2005, 16:28
Interesting, though some of those cars shouldn't be anywhere near the top 100, while there are som that are absent too. <_< The Porsche Cayenne for example, does anybody actually think that this is a good car?
fillip
25th May 2005, 16:31
The Porsche Cayenne for example, does anybody actually think that this is a good car?
You read my mind :lol:
fivecheebs
25th May 2005, 16:40
wealthy hairdressers?
furious trout
25th May 2005, 16:42
Plus the mummy Mafia must buy the biggest/most expensive 4x4 to take little Jimmy 500 yd up the road to school.....grrrr
That and people carriers with one person in them don't get me started :rant::rant:
fivecheebs
25th May 2005, 16:43
LOL ... looks to me like you got yerself started :p
Da_Rude_Baboon
25th May 2005, 16:45
4x4's the refuge of women and the gay man.
furious trout
25th May 2005, 16:46
LOL ... looks to me like you got yerself started :p
Yeah I'm off to lie down in a darkened room :h34r: i hate them all lazy swines !!!!!
furious trout
25th May 2005, 16:49
4x4's the refuge of women and the gay man.
Indeed if you must by a 4x4 then buy a land rover defender :p
dutchcedar
25th May 2005, 16:59
My favorite "car" at the moment is a GMC Yukon XL Denali... :wub:
http://www.gmc.com/yukon/index.jsp
http://www.gmc.com/images/yukon/sub_yukon_xldenali_on.jpg
Starbuck3733T
25th May 2005, 17:12
4x4's the refuge of women and the gay man.
Not neccessarily gay men, but at least those with small thingies...
Of course, if it's constantly caked in mud from driving through the bogs like an idiot, then all bets of homosexuality are off.
furious trout
25th May 2005, 18:40
Not neccessarily gay men, but at least those with small thingies...
Of course, if it's constantly caked in mud from driving through the bogs like an idiot, then all bets of homosexuality are off.
That's a fair point but seeing one over here in that state is a rare occurrence to say the least <_<
Knipex
25th May 2005, 18:42
Ok now I have calmed down a bit (and I only read hte top 10)
Maclaren F1... the worlds greatest car of all time ?!!!!! Not a chance.:rant:
VW Gold GTI.... Ok in the top 100 but not top 10...
Jaguar E-type... :wub: now your talking but under a Golf :eek: The F1 shouldnt even be alowed in the same room..
Mini... No argument here.. Definate top 10 contender...
Ford GT40... No argument here. Carroll Shelby himself blessed this one..
DB9.. Great car no argument on that but did they forget the DB5 ??
AC Cobra .........:wub: :wub::wub: As I grow older my prefference moves from the 427 to the 289.. More subtle somehow.. (not quite there yet though)
Porsche 911...... Fabulous car but not top 10 material..
Ferrari F40.. I mean come on.. Of all the Ferrari's in their history the F40 :eek: What about the Dino 206/246, the 275 GTB, the Daytona.:(
Land Rover Series 1... While I completely appreciate the landy for what it is would not be in my top 10. (just a personal thing)
Ok now to read on.
At least a "7" made the top 25 (just)
The 300SL only made 43 :eek: Behind the mark 1 \ 2 escort.... I love the early escorts but come on people WTF
The Toyota Prius :rant: WTF is that about....
The D- Type only made 63rd BEHIND THE FU&^*NG FORD FOCUS>>>>>>>>
OK now its offically completely mad.
The 540K, Alfa 8C and type 79 are behind the CIVIC
knipex walks away before blows a blood vessel..............
dutchcedar
25th May 2005, 20:35
4x4's the refuge of women and the gay man.Where I live, its the refuge of anyone who wants to make it home during all twelve months of the year... :lol:
Miatas are only operable nine months out of the year... in a good year... <_<
BigBen2k
25th May 2005, 21:07
The Ford Escort ?!?
I don't know what kind of history this car has in Europe, but stateside, this thing is a piece of junk!!!
Thanks for the link otherwise, it was nice to see some classics again.
Knipex
25th May 2005, 22:01
I would assume that its a differnet escort.
Our escorts (early ones) were the rally cars of choice and their engines ruled the rally and kit car world for a long long time.
:wub: :wub: x-flow engine
Indeed if you must by a 4x4 then buy a land rover defender :p What about my 4x4 Jeep Cherokee? I use it and abuse it... and barly wash it some times ^_^.
http://img184.echo.cx/img184/4071/jeep25gb.jpg
The Ford Escort ?!?
I don't know what kind of history this car has in Europe, but stateside, this thing is a piece of junk!!!
Thanks for the link otherwise, it was nice to see some classics again. All other countiers gett the better US cars... we build them and still get shafted. :lol:
Oh and one more thing, you Brits and Europeans are so much more pasionate twords cars, but an average american(woman/man that doesnt have an instest for cars other than to get around or put 22" rims on them) would look at this list and calmly go "eh".... me on the other hand cant say anything because for one, I cant judge a car I havnt driven, or seen for that matter. So I look at this list and say "eh" :lol:
BigBen2k
25th May 2005, 23:36
Oh I hear you there!
I must be living in a redneck part of Texas, because I commonly see people put oversized tires on their pickup trucks. My favorite is still the fella who put 30" plus tires, and was pulling a trailer!!!http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/confused.gif
Then there's the family going to the local grocery store, where the truck sits so high, you almost need a ladder to get into it.http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/wacko.gif
I'd take a low-to-the-ground street car anytime, over anything like that! The only other vehicles I've ever considered otherwise, are the (original) Hummer and the Jeep Cherokee. ;)
I'd take a low-to-the-ground street car anytime, over anything like that! The only other vehicles I've ever considered otherwise, are the (original) Hummer and the Jeep Cherokee. ;)
Hell yes! ^_^
Da_Rude_Baboon
26th May 2005, 09:20
Oh and one more thing, you Brits and Europeans are so much more pasionate twords cars
i think i would dissagree with that. Imo the car culture is far more ingrained into the american psyche then over here. You have your hot rodding culture and your countries so damn big you need a car to get around.
i think i would dissagree with that. Imo the car culture is far more ingrained into the american psyche then over here. You have your hot rodding culture and your countries so damn big you need a car to get around.
true, but I guess your view would be the same as mine if you lived here. Just from all the Euro TV shows that I've seen, and movies, Europeans(Brittan's mostly) have a greatter passion for motoring. We have our hotrods and clubs and such, but the devotion that I see in some countries to thier cars is amazing.
Knipex
26th May 2005, 11:59
All other countiers gett the better US cars... we build them and still get shafted. :lol:
Our escorts were built in the UK and Germany.
AFAIK a number of attempts were made to market cars from the eueopean market into the US but all failed.
Americans would have no interest in a 1300 or 1600cc escort that seats 4.
Americans would have no interest in a 1300 or 1600cc escort that seats 4.
Those that arn't very smart or know much about high performance. High rev'in 4cyl's are a joy to hear ^_^... eccept for a civic with a soup-can muffler :mad:
mnpctech
26th May 2005, 12:22
Little OT, but just stumbled upon this and figured the V8 guys would like it,
V8 Crate engines (http://proformanceunlimited.com/index.html) :wub:
Risky
26th May 2005, 13:23
High rev'in 4cyl's are a joy to hear ^_^... eccept for a civic with a soup-can muffler :mad:
The silly exhaust thing is way out of hand in london. You keep seeing these knackered old cars with pipes about the size of a football sounding as if the engine is about to blow up.
BigBen2k
26th May 2005, 18:05
i think i would dissagree with that. Imo the car culture is far more ingrained into the american psyche then over here. You have your hot rodding culture and your countries so damn big you need a car to get around. On that line, I think that European views on cars are different; ya'll seem to be a lot wiser on your choice of cars. I see "the-other-side-of-the-atlantic" as being more practical and/or smarter about your choices.
I'm also aware that the driving situation is different; licensing costs are much lower here, and so are the cars, and gas, so we're probably not as picky about what we drive: if it runs, good. if it runs faster, better. That's it.
In my little area of the US, people seem to revel in their pickup trucks, not because they need a vehicle to carry any kind of load, but because it's a status symbol. The reality however, is that these vehicles do not handle as well as a car. Also, because they are qualified as "trucks" (as opposed to "car"), there are some fundamental differences: first, the bumper sits at least 6 inches higher than a car, which puts the car at a disadvantage in a collision. Trucks are gas guzzlers (but no one seems to care)...
It's all oh so silly...
Little OT, but just stumbled upon this and figured the V8 guys would like it,
V8 Crate engines (http://proformanceunlimited.com/index.html) :wub:
holy jebus! :blink: Those are beautiful! No replacement for big displacment! ^_^
drazkeavi
30th June 2005, 03:49
Im terribly disappointed with that list.. The F1 is certainly not the best car.. and quite a few of those cars are pretty pathetic (escourt, civic, prius) And personaly, i think that the Galladrio or the Mucielago.
Oh, and you europeans are much better at building cars than Us.. (yes.. im an American), for example, Porcshe (german), Ferrari (Italian), Vuaxhall (British? not sure), Lotus (somewhere in Europe), and Lamborgini (not sure.. either Italian or German)
zer0
30th June 2005, 04:06
they have some interesting choices and even cars i didnt even know existed.
the Lancia Delta Integrale for one is an interesting mix of uglyness and proformance that got anie place in the list.
now this is nice #64 the Datsun 240Z is a very fun car. my brother had one althought the exaust fumes that leeking in to the cab might put you in a coma the car turly was a fun one to drive and ride in.
anyways a nice poll for shure.
furious trout
30th June 2005, 08:27
Im terribly disappointed with that list.. The F1 is certainly not the best car.. and quite a few of those cars are pretty pathetic (escourt, civic, prius) And personaly, i think that the Galladrio or the Mucielago.
Oh, and you europeans are much better at building cars than Us.. (yes.. im an American), for example, Porcshe (german), Ferrari (Italian), Vuaxhall (British? not sure), Lotus (somewhere in Europe), and Lamborgini (not sure.. either Italian or German)
I have to say that has to be the first time I've ever seen Vauxhall mentioned in the same breath as porsche or Ferrari :lol:
fillip
30th June 2005, 12:24
I have to say that has to be the first time I've ever seen Vauxhall mentioned in the same breath as porsche or Ferrari :lol:
I was thinking the same!! lol.
Btw, you forgot Aston Martin (UK) gawd dammit!! <_< :p
Da_Rude_Baboon
30th June 2005, 14:12
If you have ever played Sega Rally Zer0 the Intergrale was the small car in that. The other being a Toyota Celica iirc.
The Ford escort sold here is a vastly different beast to the one in the US. Various incarnations of it have domiated the world rallying scene such as the old RS Mexico, RS2000 and the awesome Escort Cosworth.
http://www.motorbase.com/uploads/2004/03/01/tn_mex-photoshop.jpg
RS Mexico
http://www.staufferclassics.com/images/rs200.jpg
RS2000 Evo
http://www.motorimania.net/manifestazioni/sportive/images_ford/e_escort_cosworth_11.jpg
Escort Cosworth
drazkeavi
30th June 2005, 14:52
your right.. i did forget Aston Martin, oops..
http://www.motorimania.net/manifestazioni/sportive/images_ford/e_escort_cosworth_11.jpg
Escort Cosworth
Heh, reminds me of my bro's Cosworth Cabrio (a one-off by Cosworth on commission to the guy my bro' bought it off). It was an M-plate when registered but he got it changed to B7 EKK (By 'eck!) :D
Same blue (or mebbe slightly darker), by the looks of it.
On which off-topic note - I'mma starting a new thread (http://www.wizdforums.co.uk/showthread.php?p=30177). ;)
More worthy British mentionables - TVR, Marcos, Lister, Ariel, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Daimler, Jaguar, etc...
Oxide
1st July 2005, 01:02
ok thats bs a VW bus before a ferrari and a ford focus before a bentley and a porsche i dont fuckin think so
BigBen2k
1st July 2005, 01:08
Foul language aside...
The Ford Escort is radically different on the other side of the pond, apparently.
ed: oops, you said Ford Focus, not Escort.
fillip
1st July 2005, 12:47
More worthy British mentionables - TVR, Marcos, Lister, Ariel, Rolls Royce, Bentley, Daimler, Jaguar, etc...
I was gonna put most of those then realised that a fair few are now owned by foreign companies. E.g. Rolls Royce
Risky
1st July 2005, 13:14
I was gonna put most of those then realised that a fair few are now owned by foreign companies. E.g. Rolls Royce
If you follow ownership if gets a bit strange. Do you call a Volvo an American car? Or a Dodge a German one?
fillip
1st July 2005, 13:39
If you follow ownership if gets a bit strange. Do you call a Volvo an American car? Or a Dodge a German one?
I think the point I meant to make was not so much ownership, since Aston Martin is apparently owned by Ford now, but rather where the cars are made. Taking Rolls Royce as the example again, the majority of components used in Rolls' now are made in Germany, not the UK. Thus you can hardly call the car British anymore, it's just the name that is.
Risky
1st July 2005, 14:36
I think the point I meant to make was not so much ownership, since Aston Martin is apparently owned by Ford now, but rather where the cars are made. Taking Rolls Royce as the example again, the majority of components used in Rolls' now are made in Germany, not the UK. Thus you can hardly call the car British anymore, it's just the name that is.
Sure, but increasingly it's all getting mixed up with the same engines going into Volvos and Jags or for that matter Audis, Bentlys and Lamborghinis!
I was gonna put most of those then realised that a fair few are now owned by foreign companies. E.g. Rolls Royce
Ya but I'll never afford a new one, so out of the ones I can dream realistically about... :p
mnpctech
2nd July 2005, 13:36
VW GTI topped the Porsche 911? :worried:
Fibbles
2nd July 2005, 14:10
I know a lot of people with those cars, like my dad. He had an Audi Quattro, the Range Rover and, coincedentally, he and my girlfriend (not current) had (she still has) an Alfa Romeo Alfasud, although hers is in a very very trashy state. One of my good friends has a black NSX, another friend had an RX-7 (but it was totalled in a crash; wasn't his fault).
I do agree that some of the picks are screwy :huh:
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