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i tryed a bit of over clocking this after noon and found i could reach 3.25ghz (a lil higher than with the stork p4 cooler)
i tryed razing the cpu voltage to get a higher clock but that didnt work so i realy dont know what elts to do...
according to speed fan im getting this with a temp of 37C so i dont think i have any heat issues.
fivecheebs
13th May 2005, 09:53
I dont have any P4 overclocking experiance ... only what ive read online.
Whats your system specs?
Exactly how were you trying to overclock, what were you changing. Were you using the BIOS or a windows o/c utility? Whats the divider set to?
p4 3ghz (presscott)
1gb dule channel kingmax ddr400
i am using the bios to overclock.
i am changing the FSB (default was 200mhz)
Your memory might be holding you back - whats the timings and whats it clocked to? 1:1 with the FSB?
fivecheebs
13th May 2005, 22:22
Yea ... It looks lkie the memory is the bottle neck here. 217*15 = 3255 so i guess you must be a 1:1 syncronous. IIRC with P4s you can use the ram divider with no or little ill effects to your performance unlike an Athlon XP. Try a different divider, 5:6 for example, or more ram volts, or both.
im sorry but i have no idea what you are saying...
i think i can change the volts on the memory but idont know how to cvhange the divider infact what the hell is a divider...?
jaguarking11
13th May 2005, 22:45
Well the mem divider is weird on a p4 mobo sometimes. In the same tab as your fsb look for something called memory speed, see if you can turn that into 320 or 266 and try higher clocks. As far as voltage you seem to have a very nice low voltage pressy. I think it is a 530j. If you have a 530j you could be looking at 3.7ghz with air easy and about 4.1-4.5ghz with water cooling out of that.
Hope this helps
EDIT: almost forgot
you could try to overvolt the memory too if your mobo will allow. Click it to 2.85v (kingmax ram will run at those volts easy with no problems at all)
Also drop your timings. If im not mistaken your kingmax ram should be rated at 2.5-3-3-5-8 drop those to 3-3-3-5-8 or higher to achive higher overclocks using 1:1.
ỒĊBłůē
13th May 2005, 22:46
It dictates the FSB that you run your RAM at, e.g. 250MHz FSB at 5:4 your RAM should be running at 200MHz.
You'll find it in your BIOS
Well the mem divider is weird on a p4 mobo sometimes. In the same tab as your fsb look for something called memory speed, see if you can turn that into 320 or 266 and try higher clocks. As far as voltage you seem to have a very nice low voltage pressy. I think it is a 530j. If you have a 530j you could be looking at 3.7ghz with air easy and about 4.1-4.5ghz with water cooling out of that.
Hope this helps
EDIT: almost forgot
you could try to overvolt the memory too if your mobo will allow. Click it to 2.85v (kingmax ram will run at those volts easy with no problems at all)
Also drop your timings. If im not mistaken your kingmax ram should be rated at 2.5-3-3-5-8 drop those to 3-3-3-5-8 or higher to achive higher overclocks using 1:1.
wow thats nice
im not shure if its a 530j atleast im not shure on the j part.
i know its the 3.0 releced just before the 64bit (or 630s) ones were releced
Fibbles
14th May 2005, 00:35
wow thats nice
im not shure if its a 530j atleast im not shure on the j part.
i know its the 3.0 releced just before the 64bit (or 630s) ones were releced
Take off the heatsink and look at the chip. The info should be on the heatspreader.
Take off the heatsink and look at the chip. The info should be on the heatspreader. or i could just pull the box the cpu came in and read off the box that its a Intel Pentium 4 Processor 530
(no J what ever that means. )
ok here is some of the options i have...
i think its my pci-e thats stoping me... and i think i figured out how to make it work.
some info about my momory 2.5 4 4 8 (looks slow but thats with the overclock in the pic)
anyways heres what i can tell you about the bios...
Ext. Clock (CPU/PCI) (currently set to 218Mhz)
PCI-Express frequency (auto right now i can change it to a value between 100mhz and 140mhz)
minimize FMB15 CPU Ratio (dissabled or enabled)
DRAM Type (ddr400 or ddr333 or auto)
CPU Voltage Regulator (default unkown values)
DRAM Voltage (2.6V to 3+V)
NB 1.5V Voltage (currently set to 1.5V)
Auto Detect PCI Clk(Enabled or dissabled)
(one other thing but i forget that that is)
if you can give me the frequency i should set the pci express to i think i can push it quite a ways
(i know its not 100mhz bacause that made everything slow way down)
Fibbles
14th May 2005, 09:17
or i could just pull the box the cpu came in and read off the box that its a Intel Pentium 4 Processor 530
(no J what ever that means. )
The J will be on the heatspreader. That's where the serial # is, and where it was made etc. It' might also be on the certificate found in the box.
jaguarking11
15th May 2005, 09:15
ok here is some of the options i have...
i think its my pci-e thats stoping me... and i think i figured out how to make it work.
some info about my momory 2.5 4 4 8 (looks slow but thats with the overclock in the pic)
anyways heres what i can tell you about the bios...
Ext. Clock (CPU/PCI) (currently set to 218Mhz)
PCI-Express frequency (auto right now i can change it to a value between 100mhz and 140mhz)
minimize FMB15 CPU Ratio (dissabled or enabled)
DRAM Type (ddr400 or ddr333 or auto)
CPU Voltage Regulator (default unkown values)
DRAM Voltage (2.6V to 3+V)
NB 1.5V Voltage (currently set to 1.5V)
Auto Detect PCI Clk(Enabled or dissabled)
(one other thing but i forget that that is)
if you can give me the frequency i should set the pci express to i think i can push it quite a ways
(i know its not 100mhz bacause that made everything slow way down) Ok here we go. Set your dram type as 333 and try higher fsb. It should give you better results on your cpu but you loose some memory bandwidth. With the stock cooler you should at least be able to do 3.4ghz with air regardless if it is a j series or not. If the system is not 100% stable at the new speeds jump the nb voltage to 1.6 or 1.7v. And if it still dosent coaperate at 3.4ghz try 1.3v or whatever your next step up from voltage is. And never take the cpu over 1.4v with the stock cooler as that will be unstable as the heat output would be too gr8 for the cooler.
Hope this helps.
EDIT: Be carefull taking the heatsink off the lga socket and reputing it back making shure it is on correctly. Also try to take a look at the chip while still in socket. You can damage your socket and mobo if you take the chip out and dont know how to handle it. The lga socket is very fragile socket and gr8 care needs to be taken.
yeah i know about the socket infact im probly more carful than the people at intel in handeling the socket (eather the cpu is in it with the cover down or i have the cover that came with the mother board on it.)
i guess ill have a look at the heat spreader when im installing my water set up.
and my brother might be lucky as ill be giving him my Zalaman CNPS7700-Cu (its a damn nice heat sink...)
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