Mike Tyson VS. Bruce Lee

[Vedder323]

Well... I asked this at work and was disappointed in the answers I recived... So I decided to ask more intelligent forms of life ;)

PS... Who says I "ONLY" think about 120mm fans, heh!

[furious trout]

It's gotta be Bruce- he'd run rings around Tyson :h34r: He may be powerful but you gotta make contact before it's effective. ;)

[Grand Monkey]

easily bruce lee, tyson really isn't that impressive, sure he is an animal, but bruce would run rings around him. you look into some of bruce's history and he is quite a scary chap, like apparently in his early films the extras were street gangs who actually wanted to kill him.

[fillip]

Mr Lee all the way.

Tyson is all about power, and for that pwr to be effective he's gotta hit Lee - not gonna happen, tyson, nor any heavy weight boxer for that matter, couldnt throw a punch fast enough.

For a real life xample, look at those ultimate fighting competitions or street fighting things. last couple of years a guy who specialises in some kind of brazilian martial art has won it. beating guys 2x his size. He's just so quick they cant get hold of him and when he gets them it's f***** devastating.

Now Ali v Lee would be more interesting - a grt technical boxer rather than a rapist thug with the grace of hippo

[mnpctech]

Bruce for sure...

Amazing agility and speed... Check out his nunchaku scenes (http://web.ukonline.co.uk/ray.d8/video_clips.html)

[Vedder323]

ha! Every single person that I work with says that Mike would knock him out in one punch...


idiots...


Ive seen footage if Bruce jumping in the air and kicking a dude like 6 times before his feet touch the ground!

[mrplow]

clearly the crazy ninja, he has real ultimate power (http://www.realultimatepower.net)

[bigZ]

Originally posted by mrplow@Mar 5 2004, 06:35 PM
clearly the crazy ninja, he has real ultimate power (http://www.realultimatepower.net)
loller, such an effin peruuuu site :D

[Darv]

Bruce Lee obviously. Tyson would be on the floor before he knew what had happened. :lol:

[Grand Monkey]

if i remember correctly ali did fight a kickboxer once, i can't remember the actual result i think it may of been a draw.

[saint_matrix]

Fools fools fools...
If Bruce Lee wanted to get to the hospital by ambulance quick he would start a fight with Mike Tyson.
Bruce Lee with out a doubt is a martial arts god, but Mike Tyson would end him.
Bruce is fast with out a doubt. Amazing agility. Strong for body weight.
Think about this. Bruce Lee weighs 138lbs. Mike weighs 235lbs.
Bruce Lee usually fights smaller bodyweighted people like himself.
Tyson usually knocks out people twice the weight of Bruce.
Sure Bruce Lee has APPARENTLY done some "astounding" feats and legends etc like 'fight off street gangs who actually wanted to kill him' and were probably a few small sized asians. What about the fact that Tyson knocked out 233lb Francois Botha.
Lets look at Mike Tysons Career. WON: 50, LOST: 5, KO'S: 44
Thats impressive seeing he isnt fighting 70kg asians who can do amazing amounts of quick weak kicks in the air rather than the 200lb+ monsters who you could swing a homerun hit with a Louisville slugger into their face leaving them nothing but angry.
Vedder323.. What does Bruce Lee's ability of doing alot of kicks in the air make him un-KO-able. The air from Tyson sneazing would leave Bruce Lee unconscious for days.
Fillip.. There is no way Tyson WOULDN'T be able to get a hit in. Sure Bruce is super fast but Tyson's entire career is hitting people. If you have ever seen professional fighting it is extremely rare for a fighter not to take a hit. And Tyson is incredibly fast, how do you think he knocks a 230lb boxer out. He TOO has incredible agility. And Brazilian Jiu Jitsu uses an entirely different style to the martial arts Bruce Lee trained and created. Jiu Jitsu is close to kickboxing with elements of wrestling from the submissions.
Vedder323 I don't know why you would expect to receive a rational answer from these computer nerds rather than normal people. I on the other hand am not a computer nerd. I also have been in a fight and do train a martial arts. Sure fighting in movies looks cool, and they get to do all these cool flying kicks and all types of aestheticaly pleasing crap... watch a boxing match... watch a UFC fight... watch any fight... go to a pub and watch a fight you will see how it ACTUALLY happens.
I do martial arts myself and have a mixed class of people. I train Muay Thai (Thai Kickboxing) and can tell you now, power is everything. I weigh 90kgs and at 6' and do bodybuilding. There are people in our class just same height, lighter, weaker and alot faster. We are all at the same stage in skill and Im sure you can put together who wins in sparring.
Strength does not just determine how powerful your hit is. It is also a extremely effective defense weapon. Muscle goes rock hard and rather than taking a devastating hit you take a minor hit.
Consider reality people.

[walkitiki]

The chief export of chuck norris is pain.

[jaguarking11]

I would say mike tyson. Simply put. Being a boxer means your body is conditioned like a tank. Secondly a boxer has a big mix of power and speed.

A martial arts god bruce is. But it would be like a round of chicken between a peterbilt and a ferrari. Yes a ferrari is fast but the peterbilt has the mass to flatten it. Throwing a punch in boxing isnt a slow thing. They would punch just as quick as a martial arts god.

[2JSC]

Bruse would win within the first round. Mike has the power... but Bruse has the speed. What good is a strong punch if you can't land it on the guy running circles around you?

Ever see a movie called "The One"? Jet Li and his alter universe self have 2 different style of martial arts... one fights strong in a stright line, while the other fights smart in circles around the other.

oh btw - Bruce Lee all the way! :thumb:

[zittware]

Someone's cheating...
When I look at the poll... the only selection is Tyson.
I smell a conspericy.

[saint_matrix]

Bruse would win within the first round. Mike has the power... but Bruse has the speed. What good is a strong punch if you can't land it on the guy running circles around you?

Ever see a movie called "The One"? Jet Li and his alter universe self have 2 different style of martial arts... one fights strong in a stright line, while the other fights smart in circles around the other.

oh btw - Bruce Lee all the way! :thumb:

Yes I have seen the movie "The One." A really good movie. Did you also notice their ability to fly and be suspended in the air and all types of other crap. Did you ALSO notice that they were both the same person weighing in EXACTLY the same.
Did you ever notice Mike Tyson's right arm is heavier than Bruce Lee's entire body.

Mike Tyson without a doubt would be able to hit him easy. Sure he won't be able to kick as fast as Bruce but he has an arm like a canon. As soon as that thing has been sent flying in your direction (unless you were superman) you are looking at some serious hospital time.
You have to be entirely ignorant to believe that. Sure he can punch fast and do 6 kicks in the air before hitting the ground and he probably can also fly. But Tyson is quick where it matters to him. He has the body weight and strength to take plenty of Bruce's punches and kicks etc. But he only needs to take 2 before he can get one of his in. And one of those would either leave Bruce KO'd for days and in need of some face reconstruction and a dentist or he is going to be blinded for a while and seeing alot of stars.

If even Bruce Lee or some other great martial arts expert could take down such a boxer why haven't we ever heard of it. I've never seen some karate expert challenging a heavy weight boxer.
Do you ever see a 70kg Kung Foo expert take on a 105kg kick boxer or boxer or anything in UFC or Pride Fighting. NO. Because they have tried and ended up taking the BIGGEST beating of their life.

Put it together. Bruce Lee master of martial arts and an unforgotten legend. But no super hero. I dont think there are many people in the world (if any) who can KO a heavy weight champ like Tyson, but if there is, he must be 9 feet tall, 300kg and eats children.

[fillip]

So let me see, you decided to register on a computing enthusiasts forum just to tell us all how wrong our opinions are, regarding a completely hypothetical situation? :huh:

It was a bit of fun, not some serious diatribe against professional boxers. :lol:

Jeez, get a life man. :duh:

I dont think there are many people in the world (if any) who can KO a heavy weight champ like Tyson, but if there is, he must be 9 feet tall, 300kg and eats children.

Oh and just for the record, I'll give you a name. Danny Williams. He ain't 9ft tall, can't tell you whether he eats children though. :lol: :lol: You're teh funnay!!

[Psykotik]

Most jutsu are built around using the bodyweight of your assailant against them. Body mass is irrevelevant if you can't get a hit in and you can trust me on this, it's embarassing to say, but I have been floored by an 11 year old jiu jitsu student and I'm a big 14 stone bolllocks.

Phil: You were talking about Royce Gracie and he practices Muay Thai, and yes indeedy he wiped the floor with everyone. If any of you have seen the bloke in action you wouldn't doubt for a second that he could floor Tyson.

Jeet Kune Do (as invented by Bruce Lee) takes the best aspects of multiple jutsu and combines then to be more deadly. As there's no set traditional style and moves and it's more difficult to anticipate what is going on the discipline is a good deal quicker. Lee was quicker than Vanessa Feltz to an all you can eat so I have no doubt he would annihilate Tyson.

[fillip]

Phil: You were talking about Royce Gracie and he practices Muay Thai, and yes indeedy he wiped the floor with everyone.


No I wasn't, I was talking about Danny Williams (http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=006522) you plum :duh: :lol:

[saint_matrix]

Most jutsu are built around using the bodyweight of your assailant against them. Body mass is irrevelevant if you can't get a hit in and you can trust me on this, it's embarassing to say, but I have been floored by an 11 year old jiu jitsu student and I'm a big 14 stone bolllocks.

Phil: You were talking about Royce Gracie and he practices Muay Thai, and yes indeedy he wiped the floor with everyone. If any of you have seen the bloke in action you wouldn't doubt for a second that he could floor Tyson.

Jeet Kune Do (as invented by Bruce Lee) takes the best aspects of multiple jutsu and combines then to be more deadly. As there's no set traditional style and moves and it's more difficult to anticipate what is going on the discipline is a good deal quicker. Lee was quicker than Vanessa Feltz to an all you can eat so I have no doubt he would annihilate Tyson.

Chill out fillip. Sure Danny Williams KO'd Tyson not so long ago, but Danny Williams is the same, he could mop the floor with Bruce Lee. Tyson is just a more popular fighter.

Jiu Jitsu is good, very good with take downs and is an effective way of taking down larger opponents. But try pushing down a monster like Tyson. If Bruce came running at him he would certainly punch back a few metres away. And if he managed to get him into a submission either Tyson's unbearable strength would rip him off or he'd find another way to get him off, and don't think he wont, remember when Mike ate Holyfield's ear.
Plus Royce Garcie is certainly a good Jiu Jitsu in PRIDE fighting etc but we are talking about Bruce here. And by the way, I find his fights boring.

Psykotik, come on... please relise what you are saying. Tyson not being able to hit him. He throws around a 200lb punch. They dont come out at 1km an hour. His whole life he has been throwing punches, I think he has pretty much mastered it and could punch a bullet being shot at him.
And again with who ever said Tyson couldn't KO bruce with one hit. If he got a good one in, Id gaurentee Bruce would be out for hourse and have slurred speach for the rest of his life.

Plus Bruce Lee wasn't that strong. He did 80lb Bicep curls. Im 17 (i do weigh more, 90kg) but I do 70kg bicep curls, thats 154lb. Tyson is a beast, he would easily be benching around 400lb. Bruce would be lucky to pull that off the ground using a pully device.

Tyson No.1 over Bruce

[fillip]

I think he has pretty much mastered it and could punch a bullet being shot at him.


LMAO!! :lol::lol:


Who'd have thought a thread revival could be so entertaining.


Been watching too much Smallville have we.

[TamiyaCowboy]

sending a boxer into a ring with a mixed arts fighter is incorect. and an unfair fight. didnt your master tell you " your weakness is your best asset"

now lets talk real stuff here not some tv rubbish.

tyson big brash and a boxer, trained too use fists too knock down opposition.

mixed arts fighter, has been trained too attack weak spots around the body. legs are the weak spot in any fighter without them you CANNOT fight.

now power.

tyson cannot break a brick with pure punching power. he has not been taught how too correctly hit without damaging himself. lots of boxers break there hands because of incorrect punching.

mixed arts, are able too break blocks because they have been trained how too correctly use body weight too do the impossible. dropping the hips allows for greater use of body weight. something a boxer does not do.

there is only one weakness in a human and our brain. tell someone they cant do something and they believe it the brain overrides rational though and clicks into the fight or flight mode. mixed arts are trained too hit the rational part of the brain in a fight where as a boxer does not. you have too remember different styles use different parts of the body in different ways. boxers leave themselves open too low leg kicks. a mixed artist has these covered with blocks etc etc.

bruce lee owns :D

TC

[saint_matrix]

sending a boxer into a ring with a mixed arts fighter is incorect. and an unfair fight. didnt your master tell you " your weakness is your best asset"

now lets talk real stuff here not some tv rubbish.

tyson big brash and a boxer, trained too use fists too knock down opposition.

mixed arts fighter, has been trained too attack weak spots around the body. legs are the weak spot in any fighter without them you CANNOT fight.

now power.

tyson cannot break a brick with pure punching power. he has not been taught how too correctly hit without damaging himself. lots of boxers break there hands because of incorrect punching.

mixed arts, are able too break blocks because they have been trained how too correctly use body weight too do the impossible. dropping the hips allows for greater use of body weight. something a boxer does not do.

there is only one weakness in a human and our brain. tell someone they cant do something and they believe it the brain overrides rational though and clicks into the fight or flight mode. mixed arts are trained too hit the rational part of the brain in a fight where as a boxer does not. you have too remember different styles use different parts of the body in different ways. boxers leave themselves open too low leg kicks. a mixed artist has these covered with blocks etc etc.

bruce lee owns :D

TC

Sure Bruce can break planks of wood, bricks and other materials often found in houses, but the object isnt moving, its not trying to hit them back, they have time to plan where they are going to hit. Knocking out a giant boxer isnt the same as that. Tyson would have his face well protected he isn't an amatuer.

Dropping the hips maximises kick power, I learnt that early in Muay Thai, but Tyson's a gun with his fists. With a punch around 200lbs i dont think there is any way to make that higher, that punch would be perfect. They are basically sledge hammers. It's possible he may be damaging his fists when he KO's everyone but, tell me, when have you seen them stop a fight becuase he hurt his hand.

Ability and strength is nothing without the mind to accompany. The mind can allow you and stop you to do many things. All martial arts fighters psych up and change their mindframe for a fight. There is no doubt Bruce and Mike would be in a proper state of mind for the task.
Where you say "mixed arts are trained too hit the rational part of the brain in a fight." Are you talking about they hit a certain part eg. 'behind their left ear' kinda thing or certain part eg. 'they psych up to an extent to release extreme adrenalin'

Either way im sure 200lbs to the head would damage everything in there, and Tyson would use extreme mind power.

[fivecheebs]

hehe ... this thread is amusing :lol:

personally i'd root for Mr Lee too :-p

[Squelch]

He he! :lol:
This is entertaining.
Some constructive first posts you've made there saint_matrix.
Welcome to WizD.

For the record,
Lee over Tyson any day.
Speed and agility over raw power.
Calzaghe over Lacey, for instance.

[TamiyaCowboy]

humans have three parts too the brain

reptile part: we brought this with us from when we first walked on the earth.

emotinal (sp) part: the figh or flight parts of our brain.

rational part: the is it real or not part.

boxers have too get through the three parts before they are capabale of fighting too full effect.

bruce lee,etc etc etc and also soilders are trained too hit the ratinoal part, skipping the emotinal part all together.

its a hard thing too explain, but is very true the only weakness is your brain train this and you become more agile and able too read peoples bodys language better and quicker. yes boxing matches have been stopped because a fighter cant carry on without his weapon, eg: the fist. and is deamed unfit. you will try too cover up your weakness but a boxer wont you see this in plenty of fights.

TC

[Psykotik]

For a real life example, look at those Ultimate Fighting competitions or street fighting things. Last couple of years a guy who specialises in some kind of brazilian martial art has won it. beating guys 2x his size. He's just so quick they cant get hold of him and when he gets them it's f***** devastating.

That's what I was on about you plum! :lol: :-p

saint_matrix:

I have no words. :lol: :lol:

[saint_matrix]

Thanks Squelch
One consistant misjudgement i tend to see is that speed is more important than power.
Wrong, (giving you are not ridiculously slow as a slug or turtle etc) but you have to relise boxers aint slow. Maybe not as fast as Bruce Lee but certaintly capable of hitting him.
If any of you here do Martial Arts and do Sparring and/or bodybuilding or weight training you will relise the power of not just stregth, but the iron hard shield the muscle gives you.

humans have three parts too the brain

reptile part: we brought this with us from when we first walked on the earth.

emotinal (sp) part: the figh or flight parts of our brain.

rational part: the is it real or not part.

boxers have too get through the three parts before they are capabale of fighting too full effect.

bruce lee,etc etc etc and also soilders are trained too hit the ratinoal part, skipping the emotinal part all together.

its a hard thing too explain, but is very true the only weakness is your brain train this and you become more agile and able too read peoples bodys language better and quicker. yes boxing matches have been stopped because a fighter cant carry on without his weapon, eg: the fist. and is deamed unfit. you will try too cover up your weakness but a boxer wont you see this in plenty of fights.

TC

I agree the mind is that important and im sure you are right with the different sections of brain being manipulated for maximised capability and strength, but you have to relise that boxers aren't stupid or unprepared. They are just as prepared as any other martial arts expert, they would never come into a ring un-psyched. I dont think there are many humans beings capable of taking the punches they throw and the pain they receive to that degree with out passing out. Look at a boxers eyes before they fight, most of them look like they are staring at the killer of their mum or something. They are far from agile.

[fillip]

That's what I was on about you plum! :lol: :-p



You should have made it clear you were talking about a post I made years ago rather than minutes then, you plum! :-p :lol:

[fivecheebs]

I wouldnt say speed was the key, nor strength... Its about technique.

A long time ago i used to do judo. I know its a far far cry from the stuff that Bruce Lee practices, but it gave me an insight into how using your opponants weight to your advantage. I was a short arse when i was younger (still am to some extent) but could regularly throw taller and stronger opponants with apparent ease. I can only imagine how effective this insight can be to someone like BL who understands the human body's weak spots better than most.

[fillip]

I wouldnt say speed was the key, nor strength... Its about technique.



Same old same old Chris. "It's how you use it, honest" :lol:

[Psykotik]

You should have made it clear you were talking about a post I made years ago rather than minutes then, you plum! :-p :lol:

FACK! I didn't realise it was from 2 years ago! :o) I'm a plum!

Tyson would never win as for this match to happen Mr Lee would have to become the living dead and therefore be immortal :D

[fivecheebs]

Andy .... you plum! :rolleyes: :-p

Same old same old Chris. "It's how you use it, honest" :lol:

ROFL! .... why oh why did i not see that coming! :duh: :lol:

[saint_matrix]

I wouldnt say speed was the key, nor strength... Its about technique.

For sure technique is important. Everyone has to relise though he isnt some amatuer. He was a indisputed World Heavyweight Champ after 37 fights. He obviously would have perfected and mastered the technique to boxing, he knows how to fight, he knows the weaknesess of other fighters.

You also have to look at this. Bruce Lee can do all types of wonerfully entertaining crap. But when will you use that in a brawl. The fights Ive been in its been way too risky to do a spinning heel kick or any other sort of fancy looking thing like 6 mid air kicks. Unless like in the movies your enemy is about to run into your attack or is extremely predictable or just stands there, boxing is the realest martial arts for a fight. Bruce would be foolish to risk leaving himself open for a split seccond with Tyson on his back.

What was Tyson (and alot of other famous boxers) as a kid before he became a famous boxer... he was a street fighter. Bashing kids round school and what not. He was born to fight and is very effective at it. Sure he doesnt impress kids by his amazing tricks you would never use in a fight. He engages his enemy, plans his strike, and doesn't give the opponent space until he is on the ground.

[fillip]

he knows the weaknesess of other fighters.



I hear the ears are a good place to start.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

Regardless my money is still on bruce lee.

[Tommygun]

Hi guys
Ive not posted for a while but this subject caught my eye.

Have any of you guys tried boxing ?

Tyson is / was a fighter not a boxer also a good boxer will always beat a kick boxer has for saying a cage fighter would beat a boxer is total crap.

I boxed when i was younger so i no how hard boxing was. also BL was good but he was by by no means the best what u saw in the movies was pure entertainment.

[scopEDog]

Have any of you guys tried boxing ?

I dunno, have you ever tried Jeet Kune Do (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeet_Kune_Do)?

Sorry but Bruce Lee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruce_Lee) is a legend, Mike Tyson is not. You do not become a martial arts legend making hollywood movies(although it helped his exposure to the west). With his discipline and the many forms of martial arts he practiced (including western boxing techniques) he would be a formidable contender for anyone.

By the way you describe it saint_matrix, it would be a slaughter if Bruce Lee entered the ring with Tyson. Sorry but thats wrong wrong wrong..

Now if you wanted to talk about who can bite the best ear.. well....

[dutchcedar]

Dirty Harry would take 'em both out... without a scratch... two bucks worth of bullets. :D

[jaguarking11]

My money7 would be on tyson. Im no fan of tyson. But boxing is about discipline as well as physical strength. A boxers body is built like armor. Unless bruce lee can kick or punch at supersonic speed (bullet) his kicks or punches are not going to have mutch effect on his body. A boxer knows how to absorb shock simply because his body mass is centered around high impact areas. Slaughter I doubt but unfair for sure (boxers advantage)

Also because he is large does not mean hes not quick. And that makes him more dangerus. Also a boxer conditiones himself to fight for hours thus not going all out on first try.

Anyone here heard of boxing hand? Itss a condition where the bones on ones hand become flat because of the repeated punching. If I remember next time my unk is here I will take a pic of his hands. The bones are as flat as a board.

[InigoMontoya27]

Well guys, i would definatly have to say that REALISTICALLY, Bruce Lee loses this one. Mike Tyson would win this one no contest. Why? Let me set up the scenario: Mike Tyson shows up with a shovel. He digs for a couple of hours. He lifts the coffin out of the ground, opens the lid, and punches right through Bruce Lee's skull. Mike Tyson wins. Granted, Mike would be ecstatic about the fight, because he hasn't won one in so long....and hey...NO BITING!!

Now, for the sake of what ifs.... Bruce Lee WOULD win for the simple fact that he's quicker, he's got more agility, and for size, he's stronger. Now, you take Mike Tyson in his "Iron Mike" days, and he MIGHT have a chance. Ol Mike from today wouldnt stand a snowballs chance in hell....But regardless... Mike is a boxer, his hands are his weapons. Bruce's body was a weapon.

[Fibbles]

I think it's easly decided by whoever has the best combos and can actually pull off the special moves. I mean, think of this with Street Fighter 2: The New Challengers. Fei Long vs Balrog! I could kick Balrog's ass with Fei, so I say it's Bruce Lee!

Bruce Lee's 'new' martial art was called Jeet Kune Do (or something very close) and Tyson's a boxer. Hrmm, I knew a girl with a Boxer once, it was big and drooled a lot. Not as much as a St. Bernard, but close, very close. Supposedly Bruce Lee was mugged and didn't fare so well against the attacker.

So the real winner is definitely Steven Segal! OH YEAH BABY!!!

[GodsUnicorn]

I'd kick the crap out of both of them......so there.

[fivecheebs]

:lol: both of you :thumb:

[saint_matrix]

Now, for the sake of what ifs.... Bruce Lee WOULD win for the simple fact that he's quicker, he's got more agility, and for size, he's stronger. Now, you take Mike Tyson in his "Iron Mike" days, and he MIGHT have a chance. Ol Mike from today wouldnt stand a snowballs chance in hell....But regardless... Mike is a boxer, his hands are his weapons. Bruce's body was a weapon.

He may be stronger for his size but Tyson's bigger he'd be a 400lb bencher. Bruce would be lucky to get 200lb. Have you read why people find him soo strong, its bullcrap. Who cares he held a 75lb bar directly extended from his chest, elbows locked, while standing. Give me a week i'll do it with 100lb. HE WAS NOTHING SPECIAL WITH STREGNTH. Not many other people could do it straight off because it's not a usual strength you train. After a few weeks normal people would be just as strong.
And its nice to say for Bruce's size he's stronger. But they aren't the same size. Tyson is alot bigger.

Also can you hit a baseball further using a pool cue because its lighter and you can swing it faster. Or will go futher with a heavier and slower Louisville Slugger.

And of course we are talking about Iron Mike. Its not like we are deciding who would win now. Washed up Mike or Bruce Lee's Corpse.

And Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do was just another form of mixed martial arts. Nothing special. There are a few out there. Tyson's boxing skills would obliterate Bruce.

Tell me what happens when you hit a small man. He takes alot of damage and disrupted balance due to low body weight.
What happens when you hit a large man. He doesnt take as much balance, balance not disrupted as much.
Thats why when you watch boxing and other martial arts fights they are classed into body weights. Because its a major disadvantage being light. Otherwise there would only be open weight if it didnt matter.

Bruce Lee is quick but its strong enough to damage Tyson before he gets a nice woop ass hit in.

[Fibbles]

OK Saint Matrix, got any credentials? Like an anatomy degree, you're a medical doctor or are you a fly fisherman/woman?

[saint_matrix]

OK Saint Matrix, got any credentials? Like an anatomy degree, you're a medical doctor or are you a fly fisherman/woman?

No, do you. All I have in comon sense and a logical way of thinking not influenced by fancy martial art movies.

[Fibbles]

No, do you. All I have in comon sense and a logical way of thinking not influenced by fancy martial art movies.

Just curious...

I drink my veggies.

Who would win this fight: Peeter Steele (sp?) of Type O Negative or Glen Danzig of Danzig?

[jaguarking11]

well 9 out of 10 scientists belive Chuck Norris created the world not the big bang, The 10th scientist cant be found.

Im no WOW nerd but my buddy is and this is one of the funniest things I have heard in a long time.

[JamesM]

I think Bill Adama would turn up and knock them all on their asses. Chuck included.

[walkitiki]

I can piss further than you

[JamesM]

Prove it :-p


*rolls out weapon* :h34r:

[bobvillain]

Who would win this fight: Peeter Steele (sp?) of Type O Negative or Glen Danzig of Danzig?

f'ing danzig of course!!! dude, i heard he kicked a girl in the face at a show once, cause she got to close to the stage. pshh...type-o-negative :ignore: .


"we walk the streets at night, we go where eagles dare........the omlete of disease awaits your noontime meal......let's test your threshold of pain, let's see how long you last..."

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

My moneys still on bruce.

Its a street fight and tysons to dumb to find the street and as he has pissed all his money away so wouldnt afford the bus fair to get there.

[saint_matrix]

My moneys still on bruce.

Its a street fight and tysons to dumb to find the street and as he has pissed all his money away so wouldnt afford the bus fair to get there.

Dude, Tyson was a street fighter before he got into boxing. Thats where he originated.

[ỒĊBłůē]

Lighten up fella - I think DRB's last post was meant as a joke

[TamiyaCowboy]

My moneys still on bruce.

Its a street fight and tysons to dumb to find the street and as he has pissed all his money away so wouldnt afford the bus fair to get there.

british humor :D we bad for it lmao

lets be fair

bruce lee = a has been

mike "ironfist" tyson = a wannabe

chow yung fat would whoop both there butts in a fight :lol: but i still think bruse would whoop that lard-arse tyson

TC

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I am going to say Tyson. He is broke and the thought of a bounce when he wins will make him fight harder. Remember he can take punches he fights with heavy class and also it take 4 cops to take him down with mase in hand.

I think if he got even one shot on Bruce will be a goner. Tyson is also pretty fast. Maybe you guys should download a clip of him when he goes crazy on anther fighter. Like the monument he knows the other fighter is week and he unleashes a series of punches heavy so heavy they brake bone on each impact :whip: .

[bobvillain]

chow yung fat would whoop both there butts in a fight :lol: but i still think bruse would whoop that lard-arse tyson


only cause Chow YUN-Fat's main talent is with guns. he would shoot them both. hand to hand they would punish him. but they wouldn't get that close. he'd have guns hidden in flower pots and stuff.

[Squelch]

Lighten up fella - I think DRB's last post was meant as a jokeI believe the whole thread/poll is/was meant that way.

Keep it light hearted people.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

Dude, Tyson was a street fighter before he got into boxing. Thats where he originated.

My moneys still on Bruce.

[Thug_Life]

For real this is comming from an am.street fighter.The worst pro boxer can beat the average street fighter I have seen it happen several times.What kind of fight is everyone on this thread talking about Mike Tyson vs. Bruce Lee,Are you talking a boxing match with boxing rules or an all out slug fest like a street fight?In the ring with boxing rules I would say Mike would fair well in his glory days because Bruce would not be be able to use his moves on mike.But he is washed up now and Bruce is dead.But if Bruce was alive and Mike was still in his prime I wouldnt think twice of putting my money on Bruce in a street fight because about 75% or so in street fights the martial arts people win regardless of the size of the opponent or boxing skills.Boxing does not teach to protect the same body parts that martial arts does because hitting below the waist is against the rules in boxing as well as rabbit punches and so on ect.If Mike had been a kick boxer then that would have been a match to see.Sure pro boxers are built to fight and have all that muscle as armor to shield off blows and pain and they are not slow by no means in fact they are quite fast but they are trained to fight one way in the ring by certain rules there for training for the ring and rules of a boxing match.I saw a tall skinny white dude who knew karate 6'1 weighing 146 take down and knock out a pro black boxer who was 5'10 and 226lbs in a street fight.I have also seen am. kick boxers take down respected karate experts the point is it depends on the rules and what you are trained in and how well you have became in the fighting skill you have learned.We will never know who would win in a Bruce vs. Mike fight because of where they are now but dont say oh he would get owned or blah blah unless you consider the type of fight and rules.The best way to find out is street fights too bad they are not legal and showed more often cause thats where you learn what works and what dont and where the questions get answered quickly!In a street fight I good martial artist or kick boxer is the best bet cause a regular boxer cant take nor block the lower body beating he will endure but in a regular boxing ring Mike might be able to K.O a highschool kid but he is old,out of shape and a washed up has been who got a reality check from a no name, James Buster Dougless!Thats another thing to watch out for tall skinny guys with a really long reach they seem to have alot of speed,stamina although not good if it comes to wrestling or taking big punches but they are usally fast and can land punches from way out and make for some interesting fights any way thats all I got to say on this subject Fools fools fools...
If Bruce Lee wanted to get to the hospital by ambulance quick he would start a fight with Mike Tyson.
Bruce Lee with out a doubt is a martial arts god, but Mike Tyson would end him.
Bruce is fast with out a doubt. Amazing agility. Strong for body weight.
Think about this. Bruce Lee weighs 138lbs. Mike weighs 235lbs.
Bruce Lee usually fights smaller bodyweighted people like himself.
Tyson usually knocks out people twice the weight of Bruce.
Sure Bruce Lee has APPARENTLY done some "astounding" feats and legends etc like 'fight off street gangs who actually wanted to kill him' and were probably a few small sized asians. What about the fact that Tyson knocked out 233lb Francois Botha.
Lets look at Mike Tysons Career. WON: 50, LOST: 5, KO'S: 44
Thats impressive seeing he isnt fighting 70kg asians who can do amazing amounts of quick weak kicks in the air rather than the 200lb+ monsters who you could swing a homerun hit with a Louisville slugger into their face leaving them nothing but angry.
Vedder323.. What does Bruce Lee's ability of doing alot of kicks in the air make him un-KO-able. The air from Tyson sneazing would leave Bruce Lee unconscious for days.
Fillip.. There is no way Tyson WOULDN'T be able to get a hit in. Sure Bruce is super fast but Tyson's entire career is hitting people. If you have ever seen professional fighting it is extremely rare for a fighter not to take a hit. And Tyson is incredibly fast, how do you think he knocks a 230lb boxer out. He TOO has incredible agility. And Brazilian Jiu Jitsu uses an entirely different style to the martial arts Bruce Lee trained and created. Jiu Jitsu is close to kickboxing with elements of wrestling from the submissions.
Vedder323 I don't know why you would expect to receive a rational answer from these computer nerds rather than normal people. I on the other hand am not a computer nerd. I also have been in a fight and do train a martial arts. Sure fighting in movies looks cool, and they get to do all these cool flying kicks and all types of aestheticaly pleasing crap... watch a boxing match... watch a UFC fight... watch any fight... go to a pub and watch a fight you will see how it ACTUALLY happens.
I do martial arts myself and have a mixed class of people. I train Muay Thai (Thai Kickboxing) and can tell you now, power is everything. I weigh 90kgs and at 6' and do bodybuilding. There are people in our class just same height, lighter, weaker and alot faster. We are all at the same stage in skill and Im sure you can put together who wins in sparring.
Strength does not just determine how powerful your hit is. It is also a extremely effective defense weapon. Muscle goes rock hard and rather than taking a devastating hit you take a minor hit.
Consider reality people.

[jaguarking11]

^^^^ You joined the forum just to post that?

I retract whatever response ive put in the past. It really dosent matter who would win as neither of them are capable of fighting.


Let this thread die a sad lonely death and get archived somewere where sunlight dosent see it again. At least untill 5k years from now when people will think we are primitive.