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zer0
28th April 2005, 06:00
being as i built an intel system this winter and as soon as nvidia announced an nforce 4 version for intel processors i almost shat my self but now im so flipping impatiant waiting for the first few brands to relece a version i read about gigabytes version but couldent find any info on there site (funny how some one can review it but they dont say anything about it on there site...) anyways ontop of asking when i should be able to buy one i am wondering who elts is excited...?

Da_Rude_Baboon
28th April 2005, 10:02
upgrade times a long way off for me and i only tend to pay attention to hardware when i'm purchasing.

Risky
28th April 2005, 14:34
Don't assume the the nForce chipset will automatically be the best solution.

Having an Intel chipset was normally considered one of the advantages of the P4 route and VIA, SIS haven't had anything the was recommended over intel for as long as I can remember.

zer0
28th April 2005, 19:18
indeed not always but at the moment it seems to be the chipset thats doing very well and the reviews i have seen have higher benchmarks than some of the intel boards and even some amd boards (some times a lot higher)

anyways im also very interested in a lot of the features in the chipset such as active armor and mostly sli...

jaguarking11
30th April 2005, 04:23
the nforce 4 will be more expensive than the intel chipset. The intel 955 and 945 should match or beat its perfomance when its mature and they will also provide sli as well.

Dont buy too mutch in benchmarks and reviews. A synthetic benchmark is an ok starting point but but there are more things than benches one needs to look at. For example: memory bandwidth is very important to a system and intel in the past had more memory bandwidth than amd but when put against real world benches it didnt matter either.

BTW im not a fanboy or anything of any manufacturer but I tend to stick with intel for my cpu needs and I choose carefully. I usualy buy midrange cpu's that are capable of overclocking well and provide the best bang for the buck.

I also look into forum for sale signs to find the best deals. I picked up a Asus p4p800-deluxe motherboard and a 50dollar swiftech heatsink and a p4 3.0c for 170dollars just before christmas and it was the best deal I have ever had and the parts work flawlesly. So keep that inmind when shoping for a pc.

jiff
30th April 2005, 06:05
Dunno if DFI are planning an Intel version of there NF4, i if they are.... and you overclock there is no point buying anything else. Anyone that's used DFI NF3/4 will tell you this. Bios suport especially on NF4 is second to none

Fibbles
30th April 2005, 07:18
Dunno if DFI are planning an Intel version of there NF4, i if they are.... and you overclock there is no point buying anything else. Anyone that's used DFI NF3/4 will tell you this. Bios suport especially on NF4 is second to none
Still though, people will choose other brands for whatever reasons. I would rather buy the MSI version of anything over the DFI.

zer0
2nd May 2005, 22:29
Dunno if DFI are planning an Intel version of there NF4, i if they are.... and you overclock there is no point buying anything else. Anyone that's used DFI NF3/4 will tell you this. Bios suport especially on NF4 is second to none
after my experiance with my current dfi board im very iffy about buing another dif board. i think ill stick with abit or msi.

jaguarking11
4th May 2005, 01:49
Its all about what you feel comfortable with. Me personaly I am an asus/abit kinda guy. I do like MSI mobos as they are very good bang for the buck.

I also prefer samsung hdd's over almost any brand ones.

everything else is fair game

Speaking of game I prefered nvidia card b4 but now a x800xl looks mighty apetizing and I would take it over a 6800gt but when it comes to down market ati's choices are craptaculus so I would get a 6600gt over anything lower than a xl.

Fibbles
4th May 2005, 23:45
I went through a big change lately. I was an Abit/Asus fan, loved WD/Seagate HDD's and nVidia cards.

Now, Soltek is my favorite mobo manufacturer and the Radeon x800XL is really appealing. I thought I might have blown my 6800GT putting the Innovatek NV40 on, and had I, Spahire's blue PCB x800XL would have been my replacement, but that didn't happen. Maxtor has also earned a place in my heart for the 300gb HDD.

Speaking of nForce 4/MSI, MSI has a socket 754 nForce 4 board out with both a 16x PCI-E and an AGR (advanced graphics riser) slot. The AGR is a weird high end AGP slot, but it's only compatible with certain AGP cards, that's kinda cool. Maybe I should have got that one instead :unsure: I chose 754 for the cheapness and that when dual cores are out and about, this will become my 2ndary machine with a Turion or something.

zer0
5th May 2005, 02:27
Its all about what you feel comfortable with. Me personaly I am an asus/abit kinda guy. I do like MSI mobos as they are very good bang for the buck.

I also prefer samsung hdd's over almost any brand ones.

everything else is fair game

Speaking of game I prefered nvidia card b4 but now a x800xl looks mighty apetizing and I would take it over a 6800gt but when it comes to down market ati's choices are craptaculus so I would get a 6600gt over anything lower than a xl.
an im nvidia man and will always be ati just dosent put much effort in to there drivers and the drivers make up for about 50% of the proformance

i realy have nothing agenst the hardware infact i realy think some of thos ati cards are very powerful but as i said having a powerful card with crappy drivers dosent help its profromance.

jaguarking11
5th May 2005, 03:00
an im nvidia man and will always be ati just dosent put much effort in to there drivers and the drivers make up for about 50% of the proformance

i realy have nothing agenst the hardware infact i realy think some of thos ati cards are very powerful but as i said having a powerful card with crappy drivers dosent help its profromance.
I know what you mean.

I remember the volari duo v8 card that was one of the first modern day dual gpu cards in like 7years and they performed on par with a midrange card at best but cost almost 2x the price of a top of the line card.

Nvidia drivers are realy good. But ati has swung around with their driver sets, the new ati drivers are realy good.

So now its more of an even playground.

But I guess I do still have a bit of a biast against ati. Ati lost its battle with me way back when my buddy payed almost 200bux for a then top model radeon 7200 with vivo and I bought a gf2mx400 for about 80bux less and my card killed his and his tv out quality was utter garbage compared to the gf2.

Ah well some see and some do.

Breach
6th May 2005, 16:52
I just use Omega Drivers (Omegadrivers.net), they work really well with ATI cards.

For those not in the know, Omegas are specially gaming optimised version of the normal ATI ones. They are more ATI driven but they do offer some Forceware reworks as well.