The new setup

[biggiy6]

So I am already tired of my current setup mainly because I keep getting so many friggin problems with it, the bios needs to be updated and I accidently killed my DVD burner while I was mad and not paying attention:rant: So I am going to sell the whole wc setup along with the hardware, everything is going even the case will be and some other things along with a few tools. I am hoping to be able to buy most of this new system with the money from this setup.

So here is the new system that I am going to build and run on air.

Processor- AMD 64 3000+ Winchester

Mobo- DFI Lanparty UT Nforce4 Ultra socket 939

Video Card- Rosewill X800XL PCI-E

Memory- Crucial Ballistix 512MB DDR400

Hard drive- Undecided

The case I am thinking about getting is Bill's modified TsunamiVA3000 but I am thinking of seeing how much extra a 120mm fan hole punch would be and then throw a tek chain fan in the side to help cool the video card.

I am open to suggestions on the hardware.

[Fibbles]

So I am already tired of my current setup mainly because I keep getting so many friggin problems with it, the bios needs to be updated and I accidently killed my DVD burner while I was mad and not paying attention:rant: So I am going to sell the whole wc setup along with the hardware, everything is going even the case will be and some other things along with a few tools. I am hoping to be able to buy most of this new system with the money from this setup.

So here is the new system that I am going to build and run on air.

Processor- AMD 64 3000+ Winchester

Mobo- DFI Lanparty UT Nforce4 Ultra socket 939

Video Card- Rosewill X800XL PCI-E

Memory- Crucial Ballistix 512MB DDR400

Hard drive- Undecided

The case I am thinking about getting is Bill's modified TsunamiVA3000 but I am thinking of seeing how much extra a 120mm fan hole punch would be and then throw a tek chain fan in the side to help cool the video card.

I am open to suggestions on the hardware.
Do you know how hard it is for me to wait for new hardware to justify an upgrade? I've got a more than adequate system, but I so desperately want to upgrade.

Your setup is fine, maybe swing for the 3200 Winny, since it's a solid 2.0 (I like even #'s). Do you need a lot of HD space? I'd reccomend a Maxtor 300gb drive with a 16mb cache, it's proving to be as fast as my Raptor, but with loads more space! Nice RAM and GPU choice ^_^ The MNPC Case rocks too... I can't look, I'm too envious!

[ỒĊBłůē]

I dunno how is with that setup, but I'd try and spring for 1GB of RAM there.

How did you manage to bork your burner? :(

What sort of benchies are you getting on your Maxtor, Fibbles?

[Fibbles]

I dunno how is with that setup, but I'd try and spring for 1GB of RAM there.

How did you manage to bork your burner? :(

What sort of benchies are you getting on your Maxtor, Fibbles?
Oh, yeah, more RAm would be better... Guess I missed that part...

Yeah, what'd you do to the burner?

I suppose I should bench it, but I haven't yet. I'm only measuring by UT2004 loading. It loads just as fast as the other drive, of course I haven't seen any real need to justify the Raptor in the first place :mellow:

[Starbuck3733T]

1GB of ram definitely. 2x512MB sticks. Mushkin, Corsair, Crucial... in that order. Accept no substitute :eek:

[biggiy6]

I was getting frustrated with the mobo and wasn't paying attention when I went to hook the burner back up and I had the power switch on the psu flipped to on but it wasn't actually on. Big rush of power=smoking burner:h34r:

I will def upgrade the mem but I am on a bit of a budget right now so the 512 will have to do until I get some more things up for sale like the jigsaw and two hole saws.

[Fibbles]

I was getting frustrated with the mobo and wasn't paying attention when I went to hook the burner back up and I had the power switch on the psu flipped to on but it wasn't actually on. Big rush of power=smoking burner:h34r:

I will def upgrade the mem but I am on a bit of a budget right now so the 512 will have to do until I get some more things up for sale like the jigsaw and two hole saws.I just bought 1 gig of Mushkin Green Line DDR400 for a friend, and it does 226 on stock voltage. That's pretty good for the price I paid (it was a forum buy).

[biggiy6]

So what is the best mushkin memory out there that I can afford without having to sacrifice an arm to pay for it?

[walkitiki]

After a quick search on google, I found this:
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146355

Its got real low latency. However, Mushkin offers a huge line of RAM of varying performance and prices, I'm sure you can find something you like,

[biggiy6]

:eek: Yikes that is a pretty penny! but good parts are pricey and good memory is something you really don't want to skip on.

[fillip]

Meh! $200 with rebate. $200 --> £100 (roughly)


I'd say thats not a bad price for a gig of Mushkin. I don't know if its their level 1 or level 2 stuff though it looks like it maybe the level 1 judging by the timings

[Starbuck3733T]

Ya'll are wimps - you should see what a 2GB single-ranked DIMM for servers costs.

I'll give you a hint... it's about 4x the cost of that Mushkin stuff.

And yes, mushkin is, imho, the best memory out there. Especially the BH5 based stuff (getting very rare).

[Fibbles]

Ya'll are wimps - you should see what a 2GB single-ranked DIMM for servers costs.

I'll give you a hint... it's about 4x the cost of that Mushkin stuff.

And yes, mushkin is, imho, the best memory out there. Especially the BH5 based stuff (getting very rare).
That pair costs a little less than my LVL2 gig of DDR3500/PC433. Mines BH6 though, not BH5 (some one here suggested it was a while ago). I've been trying to talk myself into 2 1gb sticks of Crucial Ballistix, but probably won't bother due to the cost involved.

Mushkin is my favorite RAM, even the value stuff can hit some pretty high speeds.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

I'm sure i read an article somewhere that said low latency was a waste of money unless your going for benchmarks. When i got my 1gb of Corsair XMS it cost me over £200 and tbh if i was upgrading again i dont think i would spend that much.

[Starbuck3733T]

Yeah, with a little tweaking (and sometimes none at all) dropping to CAS2 latency isn't an issue.

I'm currenly sitting on 4x512 of balistix PC4000 @ home (which I bought to ensure that it wasn't my memory limiting my overclock) and 2x1G of PC3200 XMS @ work.

[biggiy6]

Ya'll are wimps - you should see what a 2GB single-ranked DIMM for servers costs.

I'll give you a hint... it's about 4x the cost of that Mushkin stuff.

And yes, mushkin is, imho, the best memory out there. Especially the BH5 based stuff (getting very rare).
I'm also a 17 year old senior working a part time job and gearing up from prom in a few weeks. If I saw how much it costs for 2GB for a server costs I would probably have a heart attack.

I have heard that the TCCD chips are really good for overclocking and I also found this while googling it. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=50010&page=1&pp=25&highlight=tccd

[jaguarking11]

After a quick search on google, I found this:
http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146355

Its got real low latency. However, Mushkin offers a huge line of RAM of varying performance and prices, I'm sure you can find something you like,
Its below 200bux for it and thats a resonable price for ram. I would get the kingmax pc4000 for 153bux from newegg but thats just personal opinion as that would net some nice fsb oc. Then again ram is very important in a pc and you get what you pay for.

[Psykotik]

TCCD is good if you are gonna be pushing 300 HTT and want to have syncronous dividers, but if you can get hold of BH5 or BH6, that would be the way to go as most BH5 will do 2 2 2 5 at 250 easily, and my BH6 does 2 2 2 5 at 260 which outperforms TCCD with less of a clock.

[biggiy6]

I think I am gonna go with the mushkin that walkitiki mentioned. It looks pretty good and the price is nice. http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Prod...N82E16820146355 (http://www2.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146355)

[Starbuck3733T]

TCCD = Samsung chips, right?

Define TCCD, please.

[ỒĊBłůē]

TCCD = Samsung chips, right?

Define TCCD, please.T= TSOP2 (Package)

C= Commercial, normal (0°C ~ 70°C) (Temp, power)

CD= Not entirely sure of this -

CC= DDR400 (200MHz @ CL=3, tRCD=3, tRP=3) so can only suggest the CD is for the tighter (2-2-2) timings these chips seem to have.

Taken from here (http://www.samsung.com/Products/Semiconductor/Support/Label_CodeInfo/PartNumberDecoder.htm#01)

[biggiy6]

TCCD = Samsung chips, right?

Define TCCD, please.
ỒĊBłůē got it, I haven't been able to find the CD part either.

[biggiy6]

I just ordered all my parts except for the cpu. I can't wait until I get everything in then I get my tsunami ultra quiet case in. I decided on a WD 200gb ide hd because I really don't like sata after what I went through with my other setup.

[Fibbles]

I just ordered all my parts except for the cpu. I can't wait until I get everything in then I get my tsunami ultra quiet case in. I decided on a WD 200gb ide hd because I really don't like sata after what I went through with my other setup.
^_^

I just ordered a Soltek Nforce 3 250GB board and a AMD64 3400, both 754 so I could save a few $$$. I lost my Abit IC7 Maxx 3 earlier (I killed it), so I decided to go for those instead of a new board alone, been wanting to jump on the AMD bandwagon for a while, so now I finally have. There are upgrades to this path with mobile chips, so it's not a dead end. If the mobile 3400 was instock, I'd have gotten that one.

[fillip]

Sorry for making you look @ the new awful Bit-tech site Fibbs but I thought you may wanna read this (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/05/01/farewell_s754/).

[Fibbles]

Sorry for making you look @ the new awful Bit-tech site Fibbs but I thought you may wanna read this (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/05/01/farewell_s754/).Socket 478 is pretty dead too, well, for the newer CPU's anyway (prolly why finding a decent 875 was hard). My goal was to buy a low cost AMD64 setup that should tide me over until gaming with dual cores becomes 'something'. While browsing, I did see a VIA K8T890 and MSI nForce 4 boards (Bit said there would be none). I really wanted a 3500 Clawhammer and an MSI nForce 3 Ultra, but what I got only cost as much as that CPU alone. Hopefully, unless I kill this board/CPU, I won't need to buy any other major computer parts this year.

After reading AMDBoard.com, 754 is only 'dying' for the AMD64 line. Both the Sempron and Turion lines will continue to use it, which means I'll be able upgrade and such.

Oh gosh,the 'new' But-Tech is freakin' awful!!! WizD needs its own review site!

[biggiy6]

I heard that the 754 was gonna die out so I figured I might as well get a 939 setup with a pci e video card.

Your right Dr.Fibbles the new layout is horrid, wizd really should start reviewing things to show the others how it is done:D

[fillip]

I heard that the 754 was gonna die out so I figured I might as well get a 939 setup with a pci e video card.

Your right Dr.Fibbles the new layout is horrid, wizd really should start reviewing things to show the others how it is done:D
I think we made a consciencious decision a few months back that this wasn't going to become a review site and that it would remain a support, discussion and modding forum.

[Fibbles]

I heard that the 754 was gonna die out so I figured I might as well get a 939 setup with a pci e video card.

Your right Dr.Fibbles the new layout is horrid, wizd really should start reviewing things to show the others how it is done:D
All things must come to an end -_- Well, someday I'll have my dual core comp sitting to my left, and my old Turion Inside 754 on my right, 21" LCD in the center, tuned into this webby.

Well, there are a lot of review sites already, and if we said something some one didn't like, that could spell doom when they make it their life's purpose to flog us. :h34r:

[mnpctech]

I can't wait until I get everything in then I get my tsunami ultra quiet case in.

Finished her last night Bro. I'll ship her out on Monday :cool:

[biggiy6]

Finished her last night Bro. I'll ship her out on Monday :cool:
:eek::eek::eek:Whoa that was fast! I can't wait until this case comes in, now I need to order the cpu and heatsink and VGA cooler.