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Is it a question..
11th March 2005, 07:23
hey peeps.... working slowly throught the process of watercooling my system. i have chosen the components and have been looking at the diameter of tubing that i need to use? the pump is an enheim 1048 with both inlet/outlet 12mm connectors. im cooling both my cpu and gpu. so as to get the same temp water to both blocks im very tempted to put manifolds before and after the blocks. looking at and readin other peoples projects it looks like people are using different widths of tubing in different sections of the system. please could someone explain to me why this is, and wether or not its a good idea to include manifolds? cheers everyone :)

fivecheebs
11th March 2005, 10:40
IMO its probably best to leave the manifolds alone for a while until you get more confident. There can be alot of complications when you start splitting loops, for your first time, keep it simple. there is a thread by leeum around here with some good info on splitting loops, I think its called "Loop advice"

Tube size will depend to some extent on what you want to achieve, ie performance or silence, and what blocks you chose due to the apature of the holes where the fittings attach. Its generally accepted that performace will be marginally better with wider tubing and more flow, up to a point where the tubing gets to big to route easily. Personally i use 10/8 mm tubing in my main rig (will be using 1/2" i think in my HTPC when i get round to fitting the stuff but thats only due to buying second hand on a very tight budget, not through choice) because i am not so keen on the looks of fat tubes.

Pug
11th March 2005, 12:19
Have a look at Nexxo & Dutch's approach wrt different tubing sizes in a loop. They've had good reason to mix diameters whereas some who do it just to suit the fittings on random parts sometimes display less forethought and may mislead you.

It's hard to summarise any other way unless we know exactly what you're considering and can concentrate on specifics from that, sorry.


There are good aftermarket fittings for the E1048 that can help you integrate a uniform hose type/size to suit whatever components you end up with.

Is it a question..
11th March 2005, 14:00
well hey there again you 2... my fountain of knowledge :blink:..... lol cheers peeps. just a quick one on AC's new cuplex XT cpu block off their german shop homepage priced at 74 euros or with a solid sterling silver limited edition base plate instead of pure copper priced at roughly the same i think!!! yeah its nexxos and dutch's different diameter tubing that sent me off track a bit. the manifolds were just a possible idea but if there not easy then it aint worth the hassle.
but i was basically thinking along the lines of using 1/2" tygon from the res to the pump (due to the 12mm pump fitting). then i was going to shrink the barb size to 10/8 with 10/8 tygon tubing going from the pump outlet>rad>cpu>vga>back to res. the only part incorporating 1/2 tubing would be between the resevoir and enheim1048. now on AC's website they state that the cuplex XT has a G 1/8 thread, correct? so presumably i would use a G 1/8 thread with a 10/8 barb end. cheers you 2 AGAIN ...... lol :h34r:

:):):)

fillip
11th March 2005, 14:22
just a quick one on AC's new cuplex XT cpu block off their german shop homepage priced at 74 euros or with a solid sterling silver limited edition base plate instead of pure copper priced at roughly the same i think!!!


Not quite right i'm afraid. You pay 74 EUROS for the standard XT blcok and then add another 70 EUROS if you want the additional silver base plate, so in total you're looking around 144 EUROS

Is it a question..
11th March 2005, 14:34
Not quite right i'm afraid. You pay 74 EUROS for the standard XT blcok and then add another 70 EUROS if you want the additional silver base plate, so in total you're looking around 144 EUROS
hate to break ur heart but as i am half german (:unsure:... lol) and plan to order my entire system through their website i think it does say that IF you order the cuplex XT and the silver baseplate through their AC's website at the SAME time then they will deliver the cuplex XT already fitted with the silver baseplate and the copper baseplate is NOT included, therefor they make a price reduction and my germans a bit dry but its roughly the same price in the end. its markes as 70euros if you order it seperately... i think the text stating all this is highlighted orange. might be tempted for the xtra bling but im checking on its thermal/inert properties...... can anyone help? :):):)

fillip
11th March 2005, 14:36
hate to break ur heart but as i am half german (:unsure:... lol) and plan to order my entire system through their website i think it does say that IF you order the cuplex XT and the silver baseplate through their AC's website at the SAME time then they will deliver the cuplex XT already fitted with the silver baseplate and the copper baseplate is NOT included, therefor they make a price reduction and my germans a bit dry but its roughly the same price in the end. its markes as 70euros if you order it seperately... i think the text stating all this is highlighted orange. might be tempted for the xtra bling but im checking on its thermal/inert properties...... can anyone help? :):):) Ahwell, you'd know better, I just did a google translation on the synopsis for the baseplate and it seemed to say that you just got the baseplate for 70 Euros and sod all else. http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/happy.gif ta.

You got a link to the page with it on incase i'm looking in the wrong place to boot?

Is it a question..
11th March 2005, 14:43
and now for my final trick..... im going to succesfully SHOOT myself in the foot!!! :mad::mad::mad:

LOL.... ur actually right mate.... my bad,sorry. sorry to everyone who got their hopes up but yes it actually says "Der Preis dieser Zusatzoption entspricht dem Aufpreis für die Silver Edition und fällt zusätzlich zum Preis der Standard-Version an." which is like...eh yeah... hmmmm...... added to the original price so yeah break ur wallets out!!! time to take out a second morgage....... :)

fillip
11th March 2005, 14:47
and now for my final trick..... im going to succesfully SHOOT myself in the foot!!! :mad::mad::mad:

LOL.... ur actually right mate.... my bad,sorry. sorry to everyone who got their hopes up but yes it actually says "Der Preis dieser Zusatzoption entspricht dem Aufpreis für die Silver Edition und fällt zusätzlich zum Preis der Standard-Version an." which is like...eh yeah... hmmmm...... added to the original price so yeah break ur wallets out!!! time to take out a second morgage....... :)
lol. don't sweat it.

Yeah, 100 quid is way too much to pay, the 50 quid for the XT on it's own is pushing it.

fivecheebs
11th March 2005, 14:58
ROFL ... cant wait for your next trick ... that one was sensational! :h34r: ;)

Id say 1/2" between res and pump would be a good idea, however if your not going to bore out the aquatubes ports i may not make any difference as the thread will be restrictive afaik.

Pug, is the same true for the blocks with 10/8 tube? I need to try to understand more about thread sizes but isnt G1/8 restricive for 10/8 tubing and you may aswell use 8/6?

Is it a question..
11th March 2005, 15:09
yeah my knowledge of threads from my gcse days is a bit, how to put it.... p*** poor!!! and eventhough i attempted a level physics, it was not my strong point and fluid dynamics definetly bored me senseless!!! therefor needless to say i FAILED.... lol :lol::lol:

hence i am hear trying to get my head round which maximum thread size im limited to and then try and get my head round tube diameters to correspond to the maximum barb size i can go with.....:confused:

see what i mean... that just went straight over my head and im writing it!!! :h34r: