Storm/G5

[Starbuck3733T]

I just got in line and will be opening my walet to the tune of $210 US for this block. Silver base. Best performing thing in the universe, imho (imhe?).

If I act now I may be able to get more than one - who wants in?

[fivecheebs]

Man! I'd love in but i have other things to spend $210 on at the moment :(

Just take lots of high res pics when you receive it mmmmkay?

[Starbuck3733T]

Will do. I don't plan on taking it apart as soon as i get it, but it'll get a modded top sometime in the future i suspect.

[Pug]

Man! I'd love in but i have other things to spend $210 on at the moment :(

Just take lots of high res pics when you receive it mmmmkay?
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I still haven't bothered to replace my Evos & Cape with a NexXxos yet (and I even have two of the gold ones here... :o) )
I dropped my temps 10°C the other week when I blew the dust out of my rad, so I still have headroom with what I'm using - plus with all the other blocks on my lowly 1046/AquaStream/AP900, I'm not sure how much benefit I'd actually reap for the added cost involved. :unsure:
Thanks for the offer though. :)

[scopEDog]

I just got in line and will be opening my walet to the tune of $210 US for this block. Silver base. Best performing thing in the universe, imho (imhe?).

If I act now I may be able to get more than one - who wants in?
Holy moses thats alot :eek:
Cool we look forward to some pics.

[Starbuck3733T]

I think the timeline for it was for the run to be done in may... and yes, its a lotta money. But as i see it, its about $70 a mo or $17.50 a week...

[Fibbles]

Man, if I had the dough (I do, but I don't) I'd say YES! I'm in the same boat as Pug though, I don't think that block was made for my setup. When I set up a higher flowing loop with my 3/8" ID perhaps, but now, nope.

OT/ I saw a Cascade for sale in the UK @ $80 starting, but I don't remember what it hit at the end. I shoulda bid on it!!!

[toby]

got any info on this block it sounds interesting, way out of my price leage tho!

[Starbuck3733T]

http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?s=&threadid=299417

http://www.employees.org/~slf/lrwb/

[Starbuck3733T]

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the best block in the friggin universe as far as high or higher flow is concerned: the storm/G5

2 year old trapped inside me: it's here! it's here!it's here!it's here!it's here!

Straight from the AU...
http://www.personal.psu.edu/mss26/G5/00.jpg

... To my door
http://www.personal.psu.edu/mss26/G5/01.jpg

Mmmm, Silver base (don't let the scratches fool ya, this thing is FLAT!) + dead sexy full stainless hardware, cathar spared no expense.
http://www.personal.psu.edu/mss26/G5/02.jpg

Awesome polished stainless (afaik) top - like a mirror
http://www.personal.psu.edu/mss26/G5/03.jpg

mmm...
http://www.personal.psu.edu/mss26/G5/04.jpg

...must stop drueling..
http://www.personal.psu.edu/mss26/G5/05.jpg

More pix after I get up the nerve to open this thing up!

[fillip]

That thing looks huge!!! :shock:

[zer0]

wow that is a big block... i guess i would imagine a block with such a sexy name as the best block in the friggin universe to be a lil smaller but hey its still prety sexy...

[Knipex]

you going to lap that base ????


Still looks cool. I want to see it opened.

your fittings went today

[mnpctech]

SUPERSIZED!

[Starbuck3733T]

I'm not going to lap it- the folks at work probably will. We have a machine that is normally used to lap scientific samples for various optical microscopy techniques for optimum clarity.

and the person with the xray spectrometer is going to analyze exactly WTF is in my tubing!

[Breach]

pure liquid cooling sex starbuck :)

[Starbuck3733T]

A lot of the 'huge' comes from the stainless universal bracket on the top, the body of the block itself isn't too huge in my mind. Maybe bigger than 'normal' commercial blocks, but about normal for the DIY style. The size is needed for the 2 plates, strength, and room for the intake plenum (IIRC).

I won't be lapping it: from Cathar's site - Your Storm block has already been professionally machined and lapped flat for the primary CPU contact area defined as a 38x38mm (1.5.x1.5.) area in the middle of the base of the block. The satin-like dull reflective finish on the block.s base is intentional. A highly polished finish is not indicative of a flat contact area, just as a polished metal ball is highly reflective but absolutely is not flat. It is strongly recommended that you do not lap or polish the base-plate of the Storm water-block as you will make it less flat and degrade the quality of the CPU to water-block contact area. -- http://www.employees.org/~slf/lrwb/

if Cathar says don't, I won't. He knows what he's doing

*craves Iwaki MD-20-RZ*

[zer0]

well i guess he has a point... cant wait to see what the inside looks like and of corse the proformance.

[Starbuck3733T]

Well, the old block was sitting at (IIRC) 36*C at full load... the graphs on procooling (flowrate vs delta T) suggest 6 to 12 (IIRC, check the graphs yourself if you like) degrees better than the maze4 I had (the shittiest block they've tested :(). Cross your fingers. It'll be a bit, parts from Dr. Fibbles, Pug, and Knipex are all in transit.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

Looking forward to seeing how this block works out for you! You sure you want to have picture showing your address posted here?

[fivecheebs]

Hubba Hubba!

:bounce:

Have you got big enough balls to crack her open? :naughty:

[fillip]

Hubba Hubba!

:bounce:

Have you got big enough balls to crack her open? :naughty:

Don't be silly Cheebs, i'm sure he'd use an allen key for that http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif

[fivecheebs]

haha! :p

[Starbuck3733T]

Looking forward to seeing how this block works out for you! You sure you want to have picture showing your address posted here?
doesn't bother me - it's not like its something that you couldn't figure out easily by looking at the address of the host for my pix...

lets see..
www.personal.psu.edu/staff/m/s/mss26/

lets go to the PSU directory (http://www.psu.edu/ldap)

and enter the user ID..

Bob's your uncle - try it if you want.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

Your alright i dont have much use for your vital statisitcs. :p

[Starbuck3733T]

36/24/36...

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

:slap: :p :D

[Psykotik]

You'll never stop looking through your case window now, and you can trust me on that as I have the Cascade SS which set me back to the tune of nearly 200 quid last year (wasn't that bad from Cathar, customs stung me tho) and it's a beauty!

[Fibbles]

Did you guys see/hear the news? The Storm G4 is now Swiftech's high end block (they bought the rights). I'm buying one now!!!

http://www.swiftnets.com/

[BigBen2k]

Did you guys see/hear the news? The Storm G4 is now Swiftech's high end block (they bought the rights). I'm buying one now!!!

http://www.swiftnets.com/
Yeah, I was just going over that, at ProCooling.
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=11891

It's good news for everyone, but I can't help feeling a little left out on that one:
http://forums.procooling.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=6101

[Starbuck3733T]

Man I hope they stick to Delrin...

edit: oh good they did!

new top is pretty funky. I like the non-descript squareness. still, a 3% improvement probably isn't the design of the top. Wonderful one way or another.

So if this means a 3% improvement over the G4, that makes the G5 only 2% better? (I thought Cathar had stated a 5% improvement (maybe it was 15%?) over the G4 for the G5)

[Tommygun]

Any 1 no of a european distributor of these blocks

[drazkeavi]

They dont have a european distributor, the only ones that are in constant production are the G4s, and thats because swiftech bought the rights to them. You have to buy them directly from the poeple who make them..
http://www.employees.org/~slf/lrwb/

[Fibbles]

They dont have a european distributor, the only ones that are in constant production are the G4s, and thats because swiftech bought the rights to them. You have to buy them directly from the poeple who make them..
http://www.employees.org/~slf/lrwb/

The deal with Swiftech is the only thing keeping the Storm G4 alive, Cathar is not making them anymore, you want one? Buy it from Swiftech. I'm sure there are many places in Europe that recieve goods from Swiftech, so just Google it or check Bit-Tech's (www.bit-tech.net (http://www.bit-tech.net)) forums for the "Extreme Cooling" links thread, it's a sticky too ^_^

If you want a G5, then you can buy from Little River (read the announcement on the Storm page).

[KAMIKAZE-FREAK]

http://xcsystems.nl/product_info.php?cPath=228_232&products_id=1095

[Pug]

Hmm, I'm tempted to get one of these, just to test the hype... :mask:

[Starbuck3733T]

G4 or G5?

[dutchcedar]

Where have I been? Missed this thread entirely... even your silver block, Star... very cool, indeed... :thumb:

[Pug]

G4 or G5?
Whatever I can acquire most easily, I guess.
Prolly the Swiftech one for comparison tests would be the way to go, I'd imagine.

[Starbuck3733T]

I figured. I'd have mine up and running but mountain mods ben hasn't gotten back to me about the new res and I HATE temporarily plumbing a loop. it's a pain.

[jaguarking11]

Id like to see the diference between the g4 and the g5.

Star if I were to aquire a swiftech made block and shiped it to you to test against your g5 would you be up to it? ofcourse I would like the block back after the testing as im a poor student.

[Starbuck3733T]

I could test it but I don't have proper equipment and i'd only be able to tell you idle and load temps with a given ambient... so delta T between water and proc, and even that's not too accurate. i think pHaestus at procooling is getting a swiftech G4 and he'll update the charts of all the blocks at the end of the new review. he'res the one showing G5 and non-swiftech G4:

http://www.procooling.com/reviews/assets/images/wbcomparo.gif

[jaguarking11]

I could test it but I don't have proper equipment and i'd only be able to tell you idle and load temps with a given ambient... so delta T between water and proc, and even that's not too accurate. i think pHaestus at procooling is getting a swiftech G4 and he'll update the charts of all the blocks at the end of the new review. he'res the one showing G5 and non-swiftech G4:

http://www.procooling.com/reviews/assets/images/wbcomparo.gif

Ill keep an ey on that chart

I realy want to see the performance of it.

And swiftech looks like they did a realy good job at producing those blocks.

[Fibbles]

Don't forget that the Swiftech model has some improvements not seen in the original G4's.

[Starbuck3733T]

exaclty, which is why I (assume) pHaestus will be getting one for testing.

[Leeum]

Holy crap, can't believe I haven't seen those pics sooner :eek: That thing is such a beast, will it be having a home in the mighty project goliath? ^_^

[Starbuck3733T]

you betcha!!

[Fibbles]

Did any of you see this: http://www.hardforum.com/showpost.php?p=1028244943&postcount=1?

[Starbuck3733T]

Saw it on pro/forums. You beat me to linking it though!

I must have one.

[CandyKid]

I've got one comming this week. :D

[Starbuck3733T]

G5 I assume.

[CandyKid]

Err... no.

...and from what rumors I've heard, it's not a G4 either, but a modified version of one of 'em.

PLUR
CK

[Starbuck3733T]

Ahh, the swiftech storm. A cathar G4 that's been tweaked. Still darn good stuff! My only gripe is that the top is uuugglyyy. I prefer mine. :D

[CandyKid]

Nope again, it's not a Swiftech... they helped, for sure... but it's not all their's.

[Starbuck3733T]

Alright, I give... what is it!

[CandyKid]

I can't tell you yet. They're not commercially available! :D

I'll toss up a pic whenever I get permission.

PLUR
CK

[fivecheebs]

Im think i know, and i think CK knows i know because he goes quiet everytime i mention it.

[CandyKid]

I do not go quiet!

Shhhh. You'll get me in trouble... more than I'm already getting myself into trouble.

PLUR
CK

[fillip]

Im think i know, and i think CK knows i know because he goes quiet everytime i mention it.

<snip> ....

Apple? http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/huh.gif And they're gonna call it iCool or the iBlock or some other steamy pile of crap name.

http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/grin.gif

[CandyKid]

Shhhh.

It's suppose to be an iSecret!

[Darv]

Is it Thermaltake? :wacko:

Corsair sounds more likely though...

[Fibbles]

If you read the rest of that [H] post, Top Nurse is getting Cathar to make her a G7 with a sort of "silver-looking" top as a special order. That sounds pretty neato TBH.

[Starbuck3733T]

:rolleyes:

[Fibbles]

:rolleyes:

So if that somehow came your way you'd say no? :huh:

[Starbuck3733T]

No, the :rolleyes: was directed at the overweight sex-confused healthcare professional.

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

ROFL!

The mental image that creates is rather :vomit:.

[fillip]

No, the :rolleyes: was directed at the overweight sex-confused healthcare professional.

That's a great abbreviation in there.

"Are you an OSCHP?" http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/huh.gif

lol http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/grin.gif

[fivecheebs]

If you read the rest of that [H] post, Top Nurse is getting Cathar to make her a G7 with a sort of "silver-looking" top as a special order. That sounds pretty neato TBH.

That really does sound pretty cool. I'd guess if cathar os going to do it, it wont be a one off.

[jaguarking11]

Is it Thermaltake? :wacko:

Corsair sounds more likely though...

The only kit thermaltake makes is the big water crap and something that looks like it should be in freaky pron movies. Thermaltake hasent made a decent product in years excluding their thunderblade fans and possibly one or two heatsinks. Everything else is just crapola in my opinion. And that includes the shark and tsunami.

Corsair has a nice kit rite now with the tweaked 6002 block and black finish witch is rather sexy may I add.

@star I agree with ya man, the swiftceh storm does look rather weird. It looks something d-teck would make. But I think im going to wait to get a pure silver g8 when cathar decides to produce it. I mean 150+jets on it ougth to bring a whole new look at waterblocks.

[Starbuck3733T]

If he makes it. The machining costs will be insane... probably talking 600 to 800 per block.

[CandyKid]

Everything else is just crapola in my opinion. And that includes the shark and tsunami.

Shame you've got so much against the company... yes, a lot of what they make is all bling-bling and nothing to hold it up, but they do have a few good products and I personally love my Tsunami.

PLUR
CK

[jaguarking11]

If he makes it. The machining costs will be insane... probably talking 600 to 800 per block.

Who knows. Maybe ill hit the lotery or something. But hell for 800bux I can get a phase unit that would put me in the -20c load range. And if I pick it up from extreme systems used from one of the freazer heads I can get a whole cascade unit for about 1500 custom built.

Ah well. Who knows.

[CandyKid]

Err... I just want to play Quake 4... I'll go with a STORM and be happy for $75! :p

[jaguarking11]

Shame you've got so much against the company... yes, a lot of what they make is all bling-bling and nothing to hold it up, but they do have a few good products and I personally love my Tsunami.

PLUR
CK

Nothing against the company honestly. I just dislike their products mostly. Yes I know they make a fiew good things but im in a pesimistic mood today.:cool:. sort of like half empty insted of half full. the only company I dislike no matter what is powmax. Their psus are not even good paperweights as they are paper light.

[Starbuck3733T]

Who knows. Maybe ill hit the lotery or something. But hell for 800bux I can get a phase unit that would put me in the -20c load range. And if I pick it up from extreme systems used from one of the freazer heads I can get a whole cascade unit for about 1500 custom built.

Ah well. Who knows.

You, me, and eddie need to get together some weekend and build phase units from air conditioners or whatever else we can get our hands on.

[fivecheebs]

Err... I just want to play Quake 4...

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Im getting all excited but its going to be late, i can feel it in my waters....

[fillip]

i can feel it in my waters....

http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif Fetch the nappies again...

[CandyKid]

I know this is a language barrier and all, but I just can't help but imagine cheebs in a diaper...

[Leeum]

I know this is a language barrier and all, but I just can't help but imagine cheebs in a diaper...

bwhah :lol: I think everyone has had the laughies on this forum today :wiz:

[jaguarking11]

You, me, and eddie need to get together some weekend and build phase units from air conditioners or whatever else we can get our hands on.


actualy that sounds like an awsome idea. i think I can actualy braze now so thats another thing out the way. and after some reaserch we could use dehumidifier compressors easily. I figure if we pick a cuple of off seazon dehumidifiers for about 50-80bux a pop and some parts and posibly a cuple of machined simple copper heads we could build a unit for less than 250bux if we get lucky.......goes off to wonder.....

[fivecheebs]

OI!!!!

Gits lol.... its just an expression :dry:

Actually i had to wear a nappie for a couple of school productions a good few years ago. I was the introduction, like a paraphrase of the bloke that hits the big gong, only with me in a nappie! :lol:

I think im going to regret typing that!

[CandyKid]

I honestly have no idea what, "like a paraphrase of the blocke that hits the big gong," means!

Damn git yourself!

Regardless, a home-made phasechange system would be pretty impressive... but why not try something like what's in central air? Look at the unit, you'll see a copper pipe of COOLANT going to the radiator outside of your house... maybe it'd be possible to re-route that pipe into the back of a computer...

PLUR
CK

[fillip]

OI!!!!

Gits lol.... its just an expression :dry:

Actually i had to wear a nappie for a couple of shchool productions a good few years ago. I was the introduction, like a paraphrase of the blocke that hits the big gong, only with me in a nappie! :lol:

I think im going to regret typing that!

LMFAO!! http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/laugh.gifhttp://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/laugh.gif (and not just at your spelling http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/tongue.gif)

[fivecheebs]

IIRC it was rank screen productions. At the start of the film there was a short introduction of a man in a loin cloth who used to his a big gong in the background (kinda like the MGM studios lion). Well i used to do that in a nappie and sunglasses!

[fillip]

Well i used to do that in a nappie and sunglasses!

A smell a Photochop session... http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/grin.gif

Actually, that would give us Daddy Chav Cheebs, Baby Cheebs and then we'd just need Scroaty Chavette Mega-Hoop-Earings Mommy Cheebs

[fivecheebs]

LMFAO .....

I'm, scared!

[biggiy6]

:spitz:!!!

There goes the propel.

[Psykotik]

If your gonna try phase, you're gonna want to look at a 1/2 Hp R507 compressor (a 404 compressor will do, running 507 is fine but it's a higher pressure) I'd suggest Danfoss, as that's what's used in the Prometeia and Vapochill units, but with 404a (Mach II GT) or R134a (original Mach II)

If you can tune a unit to dissipate 230 W @ -40 with a dual head, then I'll marry you!

[fillip]

If you can tune a unit to dissipate 230 W @ -40 with a dual head, then I'll marry you!

I think it's the dual head that'll seal the deal somehow http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/wink.gif http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/wink.gif


http://wizdforums.co.uk/images/smilies/laugh.gif

[Da_Rude_Baboon]

Oi!!!

Whats all this talk of phase change crap? we are discusiing cheebs in a nappy which is a subject that needs much more investigation.

Cheebs we need pics!

[jaguarking11]

I honestly have no idea what, "like a paraphrase of the blocke that hits the big gong," means!

Damn git yourself!

Regardless, a home-made phasechange system would be pretty impressive... but why not try something like what's in central air? Look at the unit, you'll see a copper pipe of COOLANT going to the radiator outside of your house... maybe it'd be possible to re-route that pipe into the back of a computer...

PLUR
CK

I would not use a home cooling unit. It would be way overkill and would not do mutch more than a smaller more compact unit would. You dont need more than a 1/2hp or 3/4 at most for a phase unit. Home units sometimes are multiple hp and extremely expensive. Hell it would be allot more eficient and efective to run a cascade of 1/2 hp compressors. But im not quite confident on building a cascade yet and building a regular phase unit still makes me nervus but I think im going to start with a chiller first and then work my way up.

[jaguarking11]

If your gonna try phase, you're gonna want to look at a 1/2 Hp R507 compressor (a 404 compressor will do, running 507 is fine but it's a higher pressure) I'd suggest Danfoss, as that's what's used in the Prometeia and Vapochill units, but with 404a (Mach II GT) or R134a (original Mach II)

If you can tune a unit to dissipate 230 W @ -40 with a dual head, then I'll marry you!

I duno about the tuning but that can be done to disipate more heat at nearly -90c with cascades. But as far as you marrying me I think ill pass.:-p