Mora 2 Pro vs Konvekt-o-Matic Ultra

[Olly]

Anyone ever seen a comparison of these two passive rads anywhere?

I've already ordered an Airplex 1800 from Pug, but I'd like to try one of these alternative rads as well (on a different PC) to see how it performs against the 1800.

I currently prefer the look of the Konvekt-o-Matic vs the Mora (which may be a bit small for a passive rad) but I'm willing to be convinced otherwise.

Also, does anyone out there use a watercooled PSU ? I'm considering one in order to get my main PC as quiet as possible, but I'm a bit concerned about
a) how much heat the PSU will add to a (passive) cooling loop, and
b) the stability/longevity of a watercooled PSU

Cheers,

Olly

[Fibbles]

I have a Konvect O Matic Maxi. I bought it for passive cooling silence to use along with a single active rad for performance, on a lightly OC'd machine. I've seen the Mora's and I think they look allright, but I have no idea of how they perform. The Konvect O was on my primary rig for a few days, along with an Airplex EVO 240 (running fanless) and my CPU temps were probably in the 30°'s to 40°'s at highest best guess. I know that's a pretty wide range, but with my boards bios being very untrustworthy and only using my Gigabyte GPU sensor @ 28°, it works/fits. My bios read 36° and my Abit EQ software showed 30°. Current GPU temp is 32° and the CPU should be in the low 40°'s. The only reason I don't have the Konvect O Matic on the computer now is because I didn't have the desire to mount it onto a side panel. I should also mention that it tends to be quite hot in here, often reaching the mid 20°'s.

Something I'm toying with is running dual 120mm core style radiators (1 Black Ice Xtreme and 1 Noise Isolator Dual Pass) with low noise and 53 CFM Papst fans instead of my Airplex 240 with 2 80 CFM fans. Will I get any improvement by using those instead of a tube & fin radiator?

I know Pug has a water cooled PSU in his Hexadragon :) He might be able to shed more light on how much more heat a power supply will dump into your cooling loop.

[Risky]

The Moras have been around for a while, even picking up a pretty housing http://www.watercool.de/cms/forum/thread.php?threadid=2686&boardid=1&styleid=2

At first glace I'd wonder if the convect-o-matic (or Cape equivalent) is better atallowing a good laminar convestion airflow, wheras the Mora or the AP1800 would seem to be more air-restrictive. That said they must have a far greater surface area with all those fins.

A comparison of all the passives would be great but I'm not sure who could face the job.

[Fibbles]

The Moras have been around for a while, even picking up a pretty housing http://www.watercool.de/cms/forum/thread.php?threadid=2686&boardid=1&styleid=2

At first glace I'd wonder if the convect-o-matic (or Cape equivalent) is better atallowing a good laminar convestion airflow, wheras the Mora or the AP1800 would seem to be more air-restrictive. That said they must have a far greater surface area with all those fins.

A comparison of all the passives would be great but I'm not sure who could face the job.My bet would be on the Airplex 1800. A guy I almost bought one from said he was able to achieve about 10° to 15°C over ambient (depending on how hot ambient was) with 4 blocks in the loop and no fans.

That Mora in the linky is HOT!!!

The 1800 is 1st on Watercoolplanet, and the Innovatek Maxi is 3rd. They only have 6 listed :(

[Risky]

That Mora in the linky is HOT!!!

Yeah, I think that's in-house watercool.de work. That guy produces some great stuff (the DDC rehousing being one particular example!

[Pug]

I've already ordered an Airplex 1800 from Pug Sittin' behind me man. Still got your name on it. :o)
You'll be the first to be sorted when we're up again, guaranteed. *nods*

Also, does anyone out there use a watercooled PSU ? I'm considering one in order to get my main PC as quiet as possible, but I'm a bit concerned about
a) how much heat the PSU will add to a (passive) cooling loop, and
b) the stability/longevity of a watercooled PSU

Cheers,

Olly I know Pug has a water cooled PSU in his Hexadragon :) He might be able to shed more light on how much more heat a power supply will dump into your cooling loop. Had... :( Needs repair atm.
Much the same as any other component... a) hard to put a figure on really without intensive tests but I'd liken it to an average GPU or a HDD or two...

b) Stability = fine
Longevity = same as an a/c one I guess. Ive lost one or two normal ones and one w/c now.
I put it down to the fact that I had the block on the bottom due to where I mounted my res and the fact that I didn't vent above it to counteract that, so it created a bit of a heat trap. :(
Ah well, at least I can pass on the benefit of my mistakes when I do make 'em. -_-